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Only rich people can think in terms of public good. Rest of us pheasants needs to put food on the table. There is difference between childless google employee

Only rich people can think in terms of public good. Rest of us pheasants needs to put food on the table. There is difference between childless google employee maintaining open source library as side hustle and someone running company building Drupal sites for a living in India.

sdenton4 2y ago
And worse, we pheasants are in constant danger of being eaten by starving peasants.
- incanus77 2y ago
  It’s important, as pheasants, that we maintain presence of mind around peasants, lest we become holiday meal presents.
  - yoav 2y ago
    To my ear, this all sounds very pheasant.
languagehacker 2y ago
> childless Google employee yikes
- keybored 2y ago
  They might prefer *childfree.
kragen 2y ago
as a poor person, i greatly appreciate public goods such as the public park down the street, the sidewalks that take me there, the public order that kept me from getting stabbed the last time i was successfully robbed, wikipedia, linux, firefox, and library genesis i contribute to them by, among other things, not littering in the park, editing wikipedia, and publishing my software as free software
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Where does the land of "la unica solución" seem to be heading? Are you more likely to wind up with somewhat more protection from robbery, getting robbed at chainsaw-point (beats getting dropped out of a helicopter), or somewhere in between? Lagniappe: https://d22fxaf9t8d39k.cloudfront.net/bfaefbf26f795ff226ff08c5ee0db0a7be53f93122fdfed73970e8c814baa2b0172628.png https://d22fxaf9t8d39k.cloudfront.net/bfaefbf26f795ff226ff08... [we had someone in recently who seemed very well educated for taking a job as a cuidador de caballos, but it turned out to be dual purpose: during the 6-month visa we could arrange, he managed (in surprisingly few physical trips) to do all the italian bureaucracy wrangling he'd needed to get their passport]
  - kragen 2y ago
    Possibly less protection against random bandits, less protection against official corruption, and decaying infrastructure as well. We'll see; I'm surprised things haven't gotten any worse than they have (I was expecting general strikes to unseat our ideologue months ago) but it remains to be seen how things work out. The official plan is a transition to capitalism, but that depends on private investment. And what fool would invest their own money in Argentina, knowing they'll lose their investment after the next election?
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Maybe Milei could issue a BoludoCoin? EDIT: no, that's already a thing https://boludocoin.com https://boludocoin.com :|
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=907381 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=907381 Is the sage skeptical of education eg (Carleton again, the hidden fortress?)
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Carleton? Being a hacker and not an economist, I have a simplistic view of public expenditures: With a computer, we pay a certain amount for the base package of hardware + software, and a certain amount for whatever peripherals or applications/services we wish to acquire on top of that base. Everyone complains that these base packages are bloated, yet it turns out that they're cheap enough that only a dedicated few (retro builders? arch users?) are revealed as willing to assume the inconvenience of unbundling. In a society, we pay a certain amount (taxes*) for the base provision of (public) goods and services, and a certain amount (private expenditure) for whatever goods and services we wish to acquire on top of that base. Everyone complains that these base packages are bloated, yet it turns out... Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGu5Z_vaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGu5Z_vaps * these days; in older, poorer, times there was corvée for both public and private purposes.

sdenton4 2y ago

And worse, we pheasants are in constant danger of being eaten by starving peasants.

incanus77 2y ago
It’s important, as pheasants, that we maintain presence of mind around peasants, lest we become holiday meal presents.
- yoav 2y ago
  To my ear, this all sounds very pheasant.

languagehacker 2y ago

> childless Google employee yikes

keybored 2y ago
They might prefer *childfree.

kragen 2y ago

as a poor person, i greatly appreciate public goods such as the public park down the street, the sidewalks that take me there, the public order that kept me from getting stabbed the last time i was successfully robbed, wikipedia, linux, firefox, and library genesis i contribute to them by, among other things, not littering in the park, editing wikipedia, and publishing my software as free software

082349872349872 2y ago
Where does the land of "la unica solución" seem to be heading? Are you more likely to wind up with somewhat more protection from robbery, getting robbed at chainsaw-point (beats getting dropped out of a helicopter), or somewhere in between? Lagniappe: https://d22fxaf9t8d39k.cloudfront.net/bfaefbf26f795ff226ff08c5ee0db0a7be53f93122fdfed73970e8c814baa2b0172628.png https://d22fxaf9t8d39k.cloudfront.net/bfaefbf26f795ff226ff08... [we had someone in recently who seemed very well educated for taking a job as a cuidador de caballos, but it turned out to be dual purpose: during the 6-month visa we could arrange, he managed (in surprisingly few physical trips) to do all the italian bureaucracy wrangling he'd needed to get their passport]
- kragen 2y ago
  Possibly less protection against random bandits, less protection against official corruption, and decaying infrastructure as well. We'll see; I'm surprised things haven't gotten any worse than they have (I was expecting general strikes to unseat our ideologue months ago) but it remains to be seen how things work out. The official plan is a transition to capitalism, but that depends on private investment. And what fool would invest their own money in Argentina, knowing they'll lose their investment after the next election?
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Maybe Milei could issue a BoludoCoin? EDIT: no, that's already a thing https://boludocoin.com https://boludocoin.com :|
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=907381 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=907381 Is the sage skeptical of education eg (Carleton again, the hidden fortress?)
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Carleton? Being a hacker and not an economist, I have a simplistic view of public expenditures: With a computer, we pay a certain amount for the base package of hardware + software, and a certain amount for whatever peripherals or applications/services we wish to acquire on top of that base. Everyone complains that these base packages are bloated, yet it turns out that they're cheap enough that only a dedicated few (retro builders? arch users?) are revealed as willing to assume the inconvenience of unbundling. In a society, we pay a certain amount (taxes*) for the base provision of (public) goods and services, and a certain amount (private expenditure) for whatever goods and services we wish to acquire on top of that base. Everyone complains that these base packages are bloated, yet it turns out... Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGu5Z_vaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGu5Z_vaps * these days; in older, poorer, times there was corvée for both public and private purposes.