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From the policy document: "ccTLD eligibility is determined by the associated country or territory being assigned in the ISO 3166-1 standard." So how does a co

From the policy document: "ccTLD eligibility is determined by the associated country or territory being assigned in the ISO 3166-1 standard." So how does a country code get removed from the ISO 3166-1 list? A cursory web search wasn't very revealing.

TRiG_Ireland 2y ago
Since the list was originally developed for post, there's precedent for far-flung regions of a country to have their own codes, even when they're not considered politically separate. French Guiana, for example, is considered fully part of France, and yet it has its own code (GF). The Chagos Archipelago is a good distance from the rest of Mauritius, and so it may perhaps retain a separate registration on the ISO list.
gnfargbl 2y ago
That's a very good question. I don't know; does any other HN'er? The most information I can find is that the standard is maintained by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency [1]. Additions appear to be mostly at the direction of the United Nations [2], but I couldn't find a clear procedure as to how a country code is removed. I'm also unclear on who makes the decision to mark codes as exceptionally reserved. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166#ISO_3166_Maintenance_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166#ISO_3166_Maintenance_... [2] https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html
- andyjohnson0 2y ago
  Perhaps the operative question is how did IO get into the ISO 3166 in the first place? My guess would be as part of the UK defensively creating the illusion of it being a legitimate territory.
  - gnfargbl 2y ago
    It was in the original 1974 standard [1]. No real idea on the politics of the time, but Britain had "paid" Mauritius £3 million for the islands less than ten years before [2], and of course the US base on Diego Garcia was already established. I use the scare quotes because Mauritius was a British colony at the time, and so the offer was quite possibly one that the Mauritians couldn't refuse. That, and the fact that £50m (in today's money) seems ridiculously cheap. [1] https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/2448/e41694ad96e34e95b94f4fe93f3e5db8/ISO-3166-1974.pdf https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/2448/e41694ad96e34e95b... [2] https://www.biot.gov.io/about/history/ https://www.biot.gov.io/about/history/
CalChris 2y ago
ISO 3166-1 is maintained by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency which has members from agencies like ANSI, BSI, DIN, …. No way are they going to just let .io simply go out of existence. It's more like that Mauritius will attain ownership and then manage it similarly to other 'gTLDs'. .co is owned by Columbia .tv is owned by Tuvalu .me is owned by Montenegro
- andyjohnson0 2y ago
  .co, .tv, and .me are ccTLDs not gTLDs. They're the ISO 3166 codes for those countries. Some English-speaking people may treat them as global and not linked to countries, but they're not. The difference with .io is that BIOT was never a country and soon won't exist - whereas those countries have existed and will continue [1] to exist. [1] quite possibly with the unfortunate exception of Tuvalu
  - CalChris 2y ago
    That’s why I put gTLD in quotes.
- B1FF_PSUVM 2y ago
  > .co is owned by Columbia aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia (not the NYC school, or the TV network)
WorldMaker 2y ago
The ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency makes the changes to ISO 3166. They follow notifications from and include members from these other bodies: Association française de normalisation (AFNOR), France American National Standards Institute (ANSI), United States British Standards Institution (BSI), United Kingdom Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), Germany Institut Marocain de Normalisation (IMANOR) Iran National Standards Organization (INSO) Standards Australia (SA) Standards Council of Canada (SCC) Swedish Standards Institute (SIS) International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) International Telecommunication Union (ITU) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Universal Postal Union (UPU) United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html
- amiga386 2y ago
  You're right these agencies make changes... but they don't decide if a country gets a ccTLD or not. They take their cue from the UN's Country Names bulletin, which in turn requires the country to be member state of the UN, or a member of one of its agencies, or a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Criteria_for_inclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Criteria_for_inclus...

TRiG_Ireland 2y ago

Since the list was originally developed for post, there's precedent for far-flung regions of a country to have their own codes, even when they're not considered politically separate. French Guiana, for example, is considered fully part of France, and yet it has its own code (GF). The Chagos Archipelago is a good distance from the rest of Mauritius, and so it may perhaps retain a separate registration on the ISO list.

gnfargbl 2y ago

That's a very good question. I don't know; does any other HN'er? The most information I can find is that the standard is maintained by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency [1]. Additions appear to be mostly at the direction of the United Nations [2], but I couldn't find a clear procedure as to how a country code is removed. I'm also unclear on who makes the decision to mark codes as exceptionally reserved. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166#ISO_3166_Maintenance_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166#ISO_3166_Maintenance_... [2] https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html

andyjohnson0 2y ago
Perhaps the operative question is how did IO get into the ISO 3166 in the first place? My guess would be as part of the UK defensively creating the illusion of it being a legitimate territory.
- gnfargbl 2y ago
  It was in the original 1974 standard [1]. No real idea on the politics of the time, but Britain had "paid" Mauritius £3 million for the islands less than ten years before [2], and of course the US base on Diego Garcia was already established. I use the scare quotes because Mauritius was a British colony at the time, and so the offer was quite possibly one that the Mauritians couldn't refuse. That, and the fact that £50m (in today's money) seems ridiculously cheap. [1] https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/2448/e41694ad96e34e95b94f4fe93f3e5db8/ISO-3166-1974.pdf https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/2448/e41694ad96e34e95b... [2] https://www.biot.gov.io/about/history/ https://www.biot.gov.io/about/history/

CalChris 2y ago

ISO 3166-1 is maintained by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency which has members from agencies like ANSI, BSI, DIN, …. No way are they going to just let .io simply go out of existence. It's more like that Mauritius will attain ownership and then manage it similarly to other 'gTLDs'. .co is owned by Columbia .tv is owned by Tuvalu .me is owned by Montenegro

andyjohnson0 2y ago
.co, .tv, and .me are ccTLDs not gTLDs. They're the ISO 3166 codes for those countries. Some English-speaking people may treat them as global and not linked to countries, but they're not. The difference with .io is that BIOT was never a country and soon won't exist - whereas those countries have existed and will continue [1] to exist. [1] quite possibly with the unfortunate exception of Tuvalu
- CalChris 2y ago
  That’s why I put gTLD in quotes.
B1FF_PSUVM 2y ago
> .co is owned by Columbia aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia (not the NYC school, or the TV network)

WorldMaker 2y ago

The ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency makes the changes to ISO 3166. They follow notifications from and include members from these other bodies: Association française de normalisation (AFNOR), France American National Standards Institute (ANSI), United States British Standards Institution (BSI), United Kingdom Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), Germany Institut Marocain de Normalisation (IMANOR) Iran National Standards Organization (INSO) Standards Australia (SA) Standards Council of Canada (SCC) Swedish Standards Institute (SIS) International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) International Telecommunication Union (ITU) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Universal Postal Union (UPU) United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html https://www.iso.org/iso-3166-country-codes.html

amiga386 2y ago
You're right these agencies make changes... but they don't decide if a country gets a ccTLD or not. They take their cue from the UN's Country Names bulletin, which in turn requires the country to be member state of the UN, or a member of one of its agencies, or a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Criteria_for_inclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Criteria_for_inclus...