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This all stems from people of certain backgrounds expecting everyone to be a good citizen, more or less. If your intentions are not clearly spelled out somewhe

This all stems from people of certain backgrounds expecting everyone to be a good citizen, more or less. If your intentions are not clearly spelled out somewhere, then somebody is absolutely going to use your thing in a way that you did not intend. What complicates matters even further is that the original license reflected some youthful idealism and optimism. In the meantime the maintainer(s) worldview evolved but they forgot to encode that in a new license. Pretty classic mistake, it seems. Less idealism and more formalities solve that problem. Mostly. Though good luck suing the big companies if they violate the license.

Liftyee 2y ago
"Certain backgrounds"? Any particular examples?
- pdimitar 2y ago
  Well I am not a sociologist or a professional psychologist, I am sharing what I've seen many times is all. But let's just say: somewhat privileged white Western men. They seem to think everyone operates on goodwill. I am a white guy, though from Eastern Europe. Happily most of us suffer no illusions about the benevolence of the world at large.
  - zahlman 2y ago
    I don't think this expectation is a consequence of race or ethnicity, but a consequence of seeing it work in one's own local society. (Privilege, in a generic sense of socio-economic status, probably does play into that. It's easier to have high trust when nobody is desperate.)
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      Indeed it's not a question of race and ethnicity per se, but it's also true that historically such communities that demonstrate a bit of a privileged mindset are mostly white (with some rich Asians here and there). Privilege stems from community as you alluded to. Many people's worst problem was to ask a new neighbor to turn down the music 1-2 times until they learned to be a good citizen of the neighborhood and that was that. Some of us however had to deal with much worse situations -- on a regular basis -- and for people like myself I really find it difficult to sympathize with OP because coldly and mathematically speaking, they simply did not cover their bases, and they had signs and signals that they should have done it.

Liftyee 2y ago

"Certain backgrounds"? Any particular examples?

pdimitar 2y ago
Well I am not a sociologist or a professional psychologist, I am sharing what I've seen many times is all. But let's just say: somewhat privileged white Western men. They seem to think everyone operates on goodwill. I am a white guy, though from Eastern Europe. Happily most of us suffer no illusions about the benevolence of the world at large.
- zahlman 2y ago
  I don't think this expectation is a consequence of race or ethnicity, but a consequence of seeing it work in one's own local society. (Privilege, in a generic sense of socio-economic status, probably does play into that. It's easier to have high trust when nobody is desperate.)
  - pdimitar 2y ago
    Indeed it's not a question of race and ethnicity per se, but it's also true that historically such communities that demonstrate a bit of a privileged mindset are mostly white (with some rich Asians here and there). Privilege stems from community as you alluded to. Many people's worst problem was to ask a new neighbor to turn down the music 1-2 times until they learned to be a good citizen of the neighborhood and that was that. Some of us however had to deal with much worse situations -- on a regular basis -- and for people like myself I really find it difficult to sympathize with OP because coldly and mathematically speaking, they simply did not cover their bases, and they had signs and signals that they should have done it.