We weren't. I also didn't think we were parading our medals though clearly I was wrong in that regard. Is it janitors I'm thinking of that arrogantly brag about

We weren't. I also didn't think we were parading our medals though clearly I was wrong in that regard. Is it janitors I'm thinking of that arrogantly brag about successes? After all, you seem to be the expert on them ;) I have no desire to take shots at you, so please don't make it so goddamn easy. 37Signals is just a metaphor for any established company. Since you clearly know of them, you also know they take a lot of shit for claims they make. The only reason I would so much as give them a second thought is because of their track record, which, as you noted, isn't yours. In retrospect DHH is far from the idealistic person to ask this which by pure luck, supports my argument even better. Don't take it personally as some sort of attack: I'm just making the observation that there are people who fly around in jets and you are not one of them. Quite simply, this means your really not in the position to make assertations about them. You're giving marriage advice without ever being married. Any ideal is meaningless until it is thoroughly tested. Your post seems as childish as when people claim: "I will never steal". I call bullshit. Morality is nice and all but until you hold it up when you're fucking starving and have reason to steal, everything you said before is just words on a page.