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>” If you offer someone a contract, they stall for a few months, and you show up at their house with gasoline and a match and threaten to burn their house down

by nickff 2y ago

>” If you offer someone a contract, they stall for a few months, and you show up at their house with gasoline and a match and threaten to burn their house down if they don't agree to sign the contract, you're guilty of extortion.” This analogy seems tangential, and I don’t think it supports the rest of your post.

lolinder 2y ago
Did you read the allegations in the complaint? Here are some of the texts it says Matt sent: > I have 14 slides so far, working title for the talk: "How Private Equity can Hollow out and Destroy Open Source Communities, a Story in 4 Parts." > I've got quotes from current and former employees, some may even stand up and speak as well. There's the gasoline and matches. And then, while he's on stage: > I'm literally waiting for them to finish the raffle so my talk can start, I can make it just a Q&A about WordPress very easily In isolation this sounds very much like "nice community goodwill you have there... would be a shame if anything were to happen to it." In the context of the other texts and phone calls WPE cites it sounds more like an explicit threat with no subtly.
- posterman 2y ago
  Since when did relaying employee experience constitute an existential threat to a businesses ability to operate? This forum is littered with people who engage in "threats" as a mode of business every single day.
  - jeltz 2y ago
    When you demand money in return for not relaying those experiences? That is when it becomes extortion.
    - posterman 2y ago
      Thats a reductive read. I thought this forum was supposed to encourage a higher minded discourse?
      - lolinder 2y ago
        Seriously, read the complaint before commenting. What the parent says isn't "a reductive read", it's literally what WP Engine is alleging (with extensive documentation) and Matt is pointedly not denying. Read the complaint before commenting any further, please.

by nickff 2y ago

lolinder 2y ago

Did you read the allegations in the complaint? Here are some of the texts it says Matt sent: > I have 14 slides so far, working title for the talk: "How Private Equity can Hollow out and Destroy Open Source Communities, a Story in 4 Parts." > I've got quotes from current and former employees, some may even stand up and speak as well. There's the gasoline and matches. And then, while he's on stage: > I'm literally waiting for them to finish the raffle so my talk can start, I can make it just a Q&A about WordPress very easily In isolation this sounds very much like "nice community goodwill you have there... would be a shame if anything were to happen to it." In the context of the other texts and phone calls WPE cites it sounds more like an explicit threat with no subtly.

posterman 2y ago
Since when did relaying employee experience constitute an existential threat to a businesses ability to operate? This forum is littered with people who engage in "threats" as a mode of business every single day.
- jeltz 2y ago
  When you demand money in return for not relaying those experiences? That is when it becomes extortion.
  - posterman 2y ago
    Thats a reductive read. I thought this forum was supposed to encourage a higher minded discourse?
    - lolinder 2y ago
      Seriously, read the complaint before commenting. What the parent says isn't "a reductive read", it's literally what WP Engine is alleging (with extensive documentation) and Matt is pointedly not denying. Read the complaint before commenting any further, please.