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Can't WFH in a cave...

defrost 2y ago
Sure you can: https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/9906314 https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/9906314 (one of many) Coober Pedy's a long standing still active mining "cave" town - and there are others about the globe, some going back a thousand years and more.
- hinkley 2y ago
  Somewhere in the long dark ago I saw a human interest story about a hermit who made himself a house in a cave. It was still a cave, but it was clear that someone at least slightly civilized lived there.
  - defrost 2y ago
    Entire old Italian villages on peak outcrops were built by cutting into the limestone leading to a montage of { caves + stone houses }. There was a chap from that family background (he was born in the UK perhaps but his father wasn't) who rennovated an Ye old Englishe cave dwelling ... https://www.granddesignsmagazine.com/grand-designs-houses/the-grand-designs-cave-house/ https://www.granddesignsmagazine.com/grand-designs-houses/th... There are channels carved out in the rock for cabling and wood fire chimmneys, etc. Also bookable for retreats: https://www.therockhouseretreat.co.uk/ https://www.therockhouseretreat.co.uk/
- EdwardDiego 2y ago
  Okay, Australian Outback holes weren't what I was thinking of. Was mainly thinking about the ability to get a wireless connection underground being pretty rough, especially when it's a cave filled with water. (Sonar based wireless? Sofi?)
  - defrost 2y ago
    Fibre in a cable would work, as would regular ethernet cable - many tourist caves are wired for light show effects. There are a good number of caves (eg: one former tourist cave on a property I once owned in the WA S'West Karri forrest) that have solution pipes that go straight down from the surface into the roofs of various chambers - they're good for running cable. Circling back to mining, underground mines can be vast systems of tunnels with custom trucks and trains running about in addition to borehole machines and other stuff - Mining Comms is a whole field with hybrid cable + transmitter (with repeater) hubs, etc. Not saying this is cheap or easy, but it's all doable - and for the DIY home handy type it can cost time and effort rather than money if they have access to mining auctions | closing down | old stock etc.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      I ran into a fellow a while back who was attempting to repurpose in-mountain bunkers as datacenters, so he presumably had some plan for getting the bits in and out — ethernet over power? (the natural water cooling is a plus, and wet limestone sure cuts down on potential covert channels, so maybe there'd be a market among the paranoid?)
      - defrost 2y ago
        Sticking with being Born Sandy Devotional they're kinda handy for Saying it with Flowers and Burying Her Deep in Love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0OwLIY9moA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0OwLIY9moA Good acoustics and laying utilities in and out is a handy skill for farms, concerts, and apocolyptic bunker builing.
        082349872349872 2y ago
        Whether animal or vegetable, it's wise to plan one's post-apocalyptic logistics better than a novelist wight: https://www.angryflower.com/348.html https://www.angryflower.com/348.html
  - nomansland 2y ago
    look, as a current cave diver and a former devops/survivor of the past 25 years of silicon valley, one of the reasons why diving in the jungle is so delightful is that pagers don't work in the underworld. Now, don't go ruining our last safe spaces.
paulcole 2y ago
My productivity is so much higher in a cave. MBA types just don’t get it. It’s all about protecting their above-ground real estate interests.

Sure you can: https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/9906314 https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/9906314 (one of many) Coober Pedy's a long standing still active mining "cave" town - and there are others about the globe, some going back a thousand years and more.

hinkley 2y ago
Somewhere in the long dark ago I saw a human interest story about a hermit who made himself a house in a cave. It was still a cave, but it was clear that someone at least slightly civilized lived there.
- defrost 2y ago
  Entire old Italian villages on peak outcrops were built by cutting into the limestone leading to a montage of { caves + stone houses }. There was a chap from that family background (he was born in the UK perhaps but his father wasn't) who rennovated an Ye old Englishe cave dwelling ... https://www.granddesignsmagazine.com/grand-designs-houses/the-grand-designs-cave-house/ https://www.granddesignsmagazine.com/grand-designs-houses/th... There are channels carved out in the rock for cabling and wood fire chimmneys, etc. Also bookable for retreats: https://www.therockhouseretreat.co.uk/ https://www.therockhouseretreat.co.uk/
EdwardDiego 2y ago
Okay, Australian Outback holes weren't what I was thinking of. Was mainly thinking about the ability to get a wireless connection underground being pretty rough, especially when it's a cave filled with water. (Sonar based wireless? Sofi?)
- defrost 2y ago
  Fibre in a cable would work, as would regular ethernet cable - many tourist caves are wired for light show effects. There are a good number of caves (eg: one former tourist cave on a property I once owned in the WA S'West Karri forrest) that have solution pipes that go straight down from the surface into the roofs of various chambers - they're good for running cable. Circling back to mining, underground mines can be vast systems of tunnels with custom trucks and trains running about in addition to borehole machines and other stuff - Mining Comms is a whole field with hybrid cable + transmitter (with repeater) hubs, etc. Not saying this is cheap or easy, but it's all doable - and for the DIY home handy type it can cost time and effort rather than money if they have access to mining auctions | closing down | old stock etc.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    I ran into a fellow a while back who was attempting to repurpose in-mountain bunkers as datacenters, so he presumably had some plan for getting the bits in and out — ethernet over power? (the natural water cooling is a plus, and wet limestone sure cuts down on potential covert channels, so maybe there'd be a market among the paranoid?)
    - defrost 2y ago
      Sticking with being Born Sandy Devotional they're kinda handy for Saying it with Flowers and Burying Her Deep in Love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0OwLIY9moA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0OwLIY9moA Good acoustics and laying utilities in and out is a handy skill for farms, concerts, and apocolyptic bunker builing.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        Whether animal or vegetable, it's wise to plan one's post-apocalyptic logistics better than a novelist wight: https://www.angryflower.com/348.html https://www.angryflower.com/348.html
- nomansland 2y ago
  look, as a current cave diver and a former devops/survivor of the past 25 years of silicon valley, one of the reasons why diving in the jungle is so delightful is that pagers don't work in the underworld. Now, don't go ruining our last safe spaces.

paulcole 2y ago

My productivity is so much higher in a cave. MBA types just don’t get it. It’s all about protecting their above-ground real estate interests.