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> the founders would, given a few years, be free to leverage their expertise and now vast resources I couldn’t make heads or tails of your posts here until I r

> the founders would, given a few years, be free to leverage their expertise and now vast resources I couldn’t make heads or tails of your posts here until I read this. “Anti-monopoly action is good, even regarding Adobe, except for the Figma acquisition in particular, which should have happened” doesn’t really make sense unless your starting point is “the desired outcome is that specifically the Figma folks get overnight super rich” and then you work backward to construct an economic reason for that.

fidotron 2y ago
It is the wrong anti compete action to enforce against them. The correct thing would be to dismantle their publishing monopoly. The point is unless you dismantle the core print publishing monopoly Adobe will simply produce a crap Figma, bundle it in Creative Cloud, and Figma will die a slow death. At least if Figma is acquired it gets the chance to do the opposite. My priority is the widespread availability of high quality products and services, which requires rewarding those that make them, and a competitive marketplace without people engaged in product dumping.
- jemmyw 2y ago
  Adobe already tried to make a crap figma. That failed and they've shut it down. I don't think they'll try again just yet.
- jrflowers 2y ago
  >At least if Figma is acquired it gets the chance to do the opposite. This makes sense. If Adobe makes a crap Figma copy and Figma dies, that is bad. If Adobe buys Figma, makes it terrible, and then it dies, that is good. In both scenarios Figma is dead, but in the Good one the Figma founders cashed out. You literally posted that the ideal outcome is that the Figma founders could leverage their newfound wealth to do… something(?) with all their new cash, which has zero to do with Figma as a product or the users that get screwed.
  - fidotron 2y ago
    > You literally posted that the ideal outcome is that the Figma founders could leverage their newfound wealth to do… something(?) You know Signal was funded by a WhatsApp founder? That sort of thing.
    - Apocryphon 2y ago
      That's some forest you're having us see
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      > You know Signal was funded by a WhatsApp founder? That sort of thing. And MySpace Tom is now a travel photographer. This is an equally relevant tidbit of knowledge regarding antitrust and the future of Figma.
- t_mann 2y ago
  > Adobe will simply produce a crap Figma, bundle it in Creative Cloud, and Figma will die a slow death > My priority is the widespread availability of high quality products and services Seriously?

fidotron 2y ago

It is the wrong anti compete action to enforce against them. The correct thing would be to dismantle their publishing monopoly. The point is unless you dismantle the core print publishing monopoly Adobe will simply produce a crap Figma, bundle it in Creative Cloud, and Figma will die a slow death. At least if Figma is acquired it gets the chance to do the opposite. My priority is the widespread availability of high quality products and services, which requires rewarding those that make them, and a competitive marketplace without people engaged in product dumping.

jemmyw 2y ago
Adobe already tried to make a crap figma. That failed and they've shut it down. I don't think they'll try again just yet.
jrflowers 2y ago
>At least if Figma is acquired it gets the chance to do the opposite. This makes sense. If Adobe makes a crap Figma copy and Figma dies, that is bad. If Adobe buys Figma, makes it terrible, and then it dies, that is good. In both scenarios Figma is dead, but in the Good one the Figma founders cashed out. You literally posted that the ideal outcome is that the Figma founders could leverage their newfound wealth to do… something(?) with all their new cash, which has zero to do with Figma as a product or the users that get screwed.
- fidotron 2y ago
  > You literally posted that the ideal outcome is that the Figma founders could leverage their newfound wealth to do… something(?) You know Signal was funded by a WhatsApp founder? That sort of thing.
  - Apocryphon 2y ago
    That's some forest you're having us see
  - jrflowers 2y ago
    > You know Signal was funded by a WhatsApp founder? That sort of thing. And MySpace Tom is now a travel photographer. This is an equally relevant tidbit of knowledge regarding antitrust and the future of Figma.
t_mann 2y ago
> Adobe will simply produce a crap Figma, bundle it in Creative Cloud, and Figma will die a slow death > My priority is the widespread availability of high quality products and services Seriously?