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I hope better competition appear before the enshittification begins. As far as I understand it they're actually underwater on their API and even $20/month pric

I hope better competition appear before the enshittification begins. As far as I understand it they're actually underwater on their API and even $20/month pricing, so we'll either see prices aggressively increase and or additional revenue streams like ads or product placement in results. We've witnessed that every time a company's valuation is impossibly high: They do anything they can to improve outlook in an attempt to meet it. We're currently in the equivalent of Netflix's golden era where the service was great, and they could do no wrong. Personally I'll happily use it as long as I came, but I know it is a matter of "when" not "if" it all starts to go downhill.

jsheard 2y ago
> additional revenue streams like ads or product placement in results. It's largely flown under the radar but they appear to already be testing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658837
lynx23 2y ago
"This hallucination was brought to you by the coca cola company." Given how picky the ad industry can be about where their ads are being placed, I somehow suspect this is going to be complicated. After all, every paragraph produced is potentially plain untrue.
canada_dry 2y ago
> the enshittification I've assumed that when AI becomes much more mainstream we'll see multiple levels of services. The cheapest (free or cash strapped services) will implement several (hidden/opaque) ways to reduce the cost of answering a query by limiting the depth and breadth of its analysis. Not knowing any better you likely won't realize that a much more complete, thoroughly considered answer was even available.
- shermantanktop 2y ago
  Or an answer that left out the fact that Pepperidge Farm remembers, Coke is life, and yo queiro Taco Bell.
- qeternity 2y ago
  > The cheapest (free or cash strapped services) will implement several (hidden/opaque) ways to reduce the cost of answering a query by limiting the depth and breadth of its analysis. This already happens. Many of the cheap API providers aggressively quantize the weights and KV cache without making clear that they do.
bearjaws 2y ago
> before the enshittification begins. It already happens, when your model randomly gets worse all of a sudden for the same price of service.

jsheard 2y ago

> additional revenue streams like ads or product placement in results. It's largely flown under the radar but they appear to already be testing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658837

lynx23 2y ago

"This hallucination was brought to you by the coca cola company." Given how picky the ad industry can be about where their ads are being placed, I somehow suspect this is going to be complicated. After all, every paragraph produced is potentially plain untrue.

canada_dry 2y ago

> the enshittification I've assumed that when AI becomes much more mainstream we'll see multiple levels of services. The cheapest (free or cash strapped services) will implement several (hidden/opaque) ways to reduce the cost of answering a query by limiting the depth and breadth of its analysis. Not knowing any better you likely won't realize that a much more complete, thoroughly considered answer was even available.

shermantanktop 2y ago
Or an answer that left out the fact that Pepperidge Farm remembers, Coke is life, and yo queiro Taco Bell.
qeternity 2y ago
> The cheapest (free or cash strapped services) will implement several (hidden/opaque) ways to reduce the cost of answering a query by limiting the depth and breadth of its analysis. This already happens. Many of the cheap API providers aggressively quantize the weights and KV cache without making clear that they do.

bearjaws 2y ago

> before the enshittification begins. It already happens, when your model randomly gets worse all of a sudden for the same price of service.