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Am I just imagining it or does everyone hate the companies and products we’re getting these days? Who actually wants a $35,000 “entry level” car with a $20/mo

Am I just imagining it or does everyone hate the companies and products we’re getting these days? Who actually wants a $35,000 “entry level” car with a $20/mo streaming subscription model and a phone that spies on you? Am I losing my mind?

sickofparadox 2y ago
And yet, the vast majority will just watch things get worse and worse and never question why, beyond "the president did x".
- ghssds 2y ago
  >"the president did x". Which one?
  - sickofparadox 2y ago
    Well for cars it's whichever party you don't like's president that touched the CAFE laws last. So if you're a blue american that's Bush, and if you're a red american, that's Obama.
snakeyjake 2y ago
An entry-level car doesn't cost $35k it costs ~$20k. A base model Mitsubishi Mirage can be had for $18,480. https://www.southsuburbanmitsubishi.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/mitsubishi?vin=ML32AUHJ2RH008970&accountId=southsuburbanmitsubishimonee https://www.southsuburbanmitsubishi.com/api/legacy/pse/windo... Just yesterday Doug DeMuro reviewed, positively, a brand new Nissan Kicks that has models starting at $23k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88vakJoPXw&t=67s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88vakJoPXw&t=67s Most people would agree that the classic VW Beetle was an "entry-level" small car like the Mirage. If you wind back the clock 50 years a 1974 VW type 111 (Beetle) was $2,746. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/376521.jpg https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/376521.jpg That's $17-18k today, depending on which inflation calculator you use and the Beetle came with no power brakes, air conditioning, radio, backup camera, or airbags. Plus the Mirage's engine is more fuel efficient and reliable (come at me I had a 1973 Beetle).
nerdponx 2y ago
It's easy to boil the frog if the frog doesn't have anywhere to jump away to.
supportengineer 2y ago
The current crop of consumers, as a group, doesn't know any better. They don't know any other way. They may have never seen a car with a carburetor, or one with manual windows, or an AM radio.

sickofparadox 2y ago

And yet, the vast majority will just watch things get worse and worse and never question why, beyond "the president did x".

ghssds 2y ago
>"the president did x". Which one?
- sickofparadox 2y ago
  Well for cars it's whichever party you don't like's president that touched the CAFE laws last. So if you're a blue american that's Bush, and if you're a red american, that's Obama.

snakeyjake 2y ago

An entry-level car doesn't cost $35k it costs ~$20k. A base model Mitsubishi Mirage can be had for $18,480. https://www.southsuburbanmitsubishi.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/mitsubishi?vin=ML32AUHJ2RH008970&accountId=southsuburbanmitsubishimonee https://www.southsuburbanmitsubishi.com/api/legacy/pse/windo... Just yesterday Doug DeMuro reviewed, positively, a brand new Nissan Kicks that has models starting at $23k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88vakJoPXw&t=67s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88vakJoPXw&t=67s Most people would agree that the classic VW Beetle was an "entry-level" small car like the Mirage. If you wind back the clock 50 years a 1974 VW type 111 (Beetle) was $2,746. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/376521.jpg https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/376521.jpg That's $17-18k today, depending on which inflation calculator you use and the Beetle came with no power brakes, air conditioning, radio, backup camera, or airbags. Plus the Mirage's engine is more fuel efficient and reliable (come at me I had a 1973 Beetle).

nerdponx 2y ago

It's easy to boil the frog if the frog doesn't have anywhere to jump away to.

supportengineer 2y ago

The current crop of consumers, as a group, doesn't know any better. They don't know any other way. They may have never seen a car with a carburetor, or one with manual windows, or an AM radio.