I suspect very few people "start with Kibana to solve some streaming data search problem and discovery they love ElasticSearch / lucene" and similarly very few

I suspect very few people "start with Kibana to solve some streaming data search problem and discovery they love ElasticSearch / lucene" and similarly very few people who seek out features on top of lucene say "and another major selling point to using ElasticSearch for this project is that we'll also be able to search the database with Kibana"