4 ms·

>I wonder if the same will apply in the case of AI assistants - they'll be great for more junior developers who will never need to learn good I can't think of

>I wonder if the same will apply in the case of AI assistants - they'll be great for more junior developers who will never need to learn good I can't think of a worse idea than giving copilot to a junior dev... I use chatgpt a lot, but I've got lots of experience. One has to understand how the big picture works very well to not find yourself led down the wrong path.

nunez 2y ago
It's worse than that. Most non-technical business stakeholders don't really understand what we do. You don't see shows about awesome devs doing awesome shit, like you do for lawyers, doctors, business people, etc. All they know about us is that we're nerds who work like two hours a day and can't be bothered to go into the office. They do, however, understand ChatGPT and how it can be used to create whatever you want (see also: Eric Schmidt's missive to Stanford business undergrads that made the front page here some time back). Given this, they are EXTREMELY incentivized to give/force upon ChatGPT to juniors. If they can give this to juniors and maintain feature velocity with an acceptable amount of quality degradation, then they can eventually move software development to lower-cost countries with weaker worker protections wholesale (and use good old fashioned protectionism to make sure that those countries don't try to steal our slice of the pie). Quality issues can be fixed by expert consultants who know their shit, but that market won't be big enough for all of us.
- tivert 2y ago
  > Most non-technical business stakeholders don't really understand what we do. You don't see shows about awesome devs doing awesome shit, like you do for lawyers, doctors, business people, etc. All they know about us is that we're nerds who work like two hours a day and can't be bothered to go into the office. You do, but it's even more ridiculous nonsense fantasy than a typical doctor or a lawyer show (e.g. all the hacker girl scenes like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ).

nunez 2y ago

It's worse than that. Most non-technical business stakeholders don't really understand what we do. You don't see shows about awesome devs doing awesome shit, like you do for lawyers, doctors, business people, etc. All they know about us is that we're nerds who work like two hours a day and can't be bothered to go into the office. They do, however, understand ChatGPT and how it can be used to create whatever you want (see also: Eric Schmidt's missive to Stanford business undergrads that made the front page here some time back). Given this, they are EXTREMELY incentivized to give/force upon ChatGPT to juniors. If they can give this to juniors and maintain feature velocity with an acceptable amount of quality degradation, then they can eventually move software development to lower-cost countries with weaker worker protections wholesale (and use good old fashioned protectionism to make sure that those countries don't try to steal our slice of the pie). Quality issues can be fixed by expert consultants who know their shit, but that market won't be big enough for all of us.

tivert 2y ago
> Most non-technical business stakeholders don't really understand what we do. You don't see shows about awesome devs doing awesome shit, like you do for lawyers, doctors, business people, etc. All they know about us is that we're nerds who work like two hours a day and can't be bothered to go into the office. You do, but it's even more ridiculous nonsense fantasy than a typical doctor or a lawyer show (e.g. all the hacker girl scenes like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ).