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“One of my intern developers can’t tell me the URL of their own latest blog post, why would I trust a different intern to write code without supervision or revi

“One of my intern developers can’t tell me the URL of their own latest blog post, why would I trust a different intern to write code without supervision or review?”

ToucanLoucan 2y ago
If your intern delivered false information or wrote broken code as Copilot is wont to do, at the rate Copilot manages to, you would fire that intern. Especially if they argued with you that their completely made up solution was, in fact, real.
- infecto 2y ago
  How much of this could be measured as a user using the tool incorrectly? We hear these complaints and while I have definitely experienced incorrect code, they feel more like blips that I overcome in seconds.
  - ToucanLoucan 2y ago
    If I bought a hammer that occasionally instead of striking and driving the nail instead turned itself back-to-front and clawed the wood, I'd return it because it's broken. The how or why it does it is immaterial. It's a tool. If it doesn't perform it's task, it's very Reason for Being, then it's worthless to me. If you tolerate broken tools, that's fine, more power to you. I don't. If shit doesn't work it goes in the bin.
    - infecto 2y ago
      I guess I have the advantage of having used the majority of these various tools and found workflows that work quite well. Sorry you are incapable of attacking people in your responses and having a reasonable dialogue.
edent 2y ago
If one of my interns lied about something I asked them, why would I trust the same intern with literally anything else? A key skill is learning when to say "I'm sorry, I don't know that." AI is currently trained to be overly friendly and helpful - to the point of deception. They often "hallucinate" entire software packages. At which point, they become worse than useless.
- brookst 2y ago
  Is it always a lie when someone is wrong about something? And is it wise to judge one tool’s quality based on a totally different tool’s ability in a different domain? Honestly you’re mostly demonstrating why people aren’t reliable.

“One of my intern developers can’t tell me the URL of their own latest blog post, why would I trust a different intern to write code without supervision or review?”

ToucanLoucan 2y ago

If your intern delivered false information or wrote broken code as Copilot is wont to do, at the rate Copilot manages to, you would fire that intern. Especially if they argued with you that their completely made up solution was, in fact, real.

infecto 2y ago
How much of this could be measured as a user using the tool incorrectly? We hear these complaints and while I have definitely experienced incorrect code, they feel more like blips that I overcome in seconds.
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  If I bought a hammer that occasionally instead of striking and driving the nail instead turned itself back-to-front and clawed the wood, I'd return it because it's broken. The how or why it does it is immaterial. It's a tool. If it doesn't perform it's task, it's very Reason for Being, then it's worthless to me. If you tolerate broken tools, that's fine, more power to you. I don't. If shit doesn't work it goes in the bin.
  - infecto 2y ago
    I guess I have the advantage of having used the majority of these various tools and found workflows that work quite well. Sorry you are incapable of attacking people in your responses and having a reasonable dialogue.

edent 2y ago

If one of my interns lied about something I asked them, why would I trust the same intern with literally anything else? A key skill is learning when to say "I'm sorry, I don't know that." AI is currently trained to be overly friendly and helpful - to the point of deception. They often "hallucinate" entire software packages. At which point, they become worse than useless.

brookst 2y ago
Is it always a lie when someone is wrong about something? And is it wise to judge one tool’s quality based on a totally different tool’s ability in a different domain? Honestly you’re mostly demonstrating why people aren’t reliable.