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One wonders if things win because they really are better, or because there's sufficient financial momentum behind them. I have worked in the public sector for s

by wvh 2y ago

One wonders if things win because they really are better, or because there's sufficient financial momentum behind them. I have worked in the public sector for some years, and I don't think Europe is behind, just that the budgets are a lot smaller. If you want to capture a lot of people in an ecosystem or walled garden, you're going to need money, and lots of it. For all that's good and bad about it, most of that excess is concentrated in the US, in a few hotspots. No need to get distracted and put a flag on somebody like a Zuckerberg or Jobs or Gates though.

sofixa 2y ago
> and I don't think Europe is behind, just that the budgets are a lot smaller. If you want to capture a lot of people in an ecosystem or walled garden, you're going to need money, and lots of it And the initial market you have is quite a bit smaller. Germany is the biggest EU country by population at 84 million, compared to 333 million in the US. Moving into another EU country means translating into a different language, verifying what laws apply to you, how taxes work, etc. Sometimes it's easy (just a translation), sometimes you might have to redo everything almost from scratch (e.g. Doctolib which schedule healthcare appointments, do meetings online with doctors, can be used to share test results, prescriptions - each new country they enter will have a lot of regulations on healthcare data that will need to be applied). But it's mostly the budgets.
- guappa 2y ago
  Are you forgetting about the single market thing? You can sell everywhere without figuring out how taxes work. You think in USA healthcare is unified? When every single hospital is a separate entity? Hihihihihi, you're joking right?
  - sofixa 2y ago
    > You can sell everywhere without figuring out how taxes work. You have to figure out VAT for each country. And any local regulations and laws that apply to your business. > You think in USA healthcare is unified Irrelevant. There isn't an entirely separate set of laws and rules that govern healthcare and related data applying to each different hospital or locale. HIPAA is the big thing that applies to everyone. In the EU, you can't even read the related laws for a different country without bilingual lawyers to translate it to you.
    - guappa 2y ago
      > You have to figure out VAT for each country. Look, yo clearly have no experience with this. No you don't. That's just made up. I have no further interest in discussing with you if you are here just to do disinformation. > Irrelevant. There isn't an entirely separate set of laws Lol. You think states have uniform legislation in USA. Before telling us how the world works, it'd be best to learn how it works. Your mental model is rather different from the reality.
      - sofixa 2y ago
        > Look, yo clearly have no experience with this. No you don't. That's just made up. Enjoy the reading: https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/cross-border-vat/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/cross-bor... https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/where-tax_en https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/where-tax_en That's a lot of conditions, rules, and exceptions depending on what you're trading and from where to where. > You think states have uniform legislation in USA They don't, but there's lots of overlap, especially in high level areas like healthcare.

by wvh 2y ago

sofixa 2y ago

> and I don't think Europe is behind, just that the budgets are a lot smaller. If you want to capture a lot of people in an ecosystem or walled garden, you're going to need money, and lots of it And the initial market you have is quite a bit smaller. Germany is the biggest EU country by population at 84 million, compared to 333 million in the US. Moving into another EU country means translating into a different language, verifying what laws apply to you, how taxes work, etc. Sometimes it's easy (just a translation), sometimes you might have to redo everything almost from scratch (e.g. Doctolib which schedule healthcare appointments, do meetings online with doctors, can be used to share test results, prescriptions - each new country they enter will have a lot of regulations on healthcare data that will need to be applied). But it's mostly the budgets.

guappa 2y ago
Are you forgetting about the single market thing? You can sell everywhere without figuring out how taxes work. You think in USA healthcare is unified? When every single hospital is a separate entity? Hihihihihi, you're joking right?
- sofixa 2y ago
  > You can sell everywhere without figuring out how taxes work. You have to figure out VAT for each country. And any local regulations and laws that apply to your business. > You think in USA healthcare is unified Irrelevant. There isn't an entirely separate set of laws and rules that govern healthcare and related data applying to each different hospital or locale. HIPAA is the big thing that applies to everyone. In the EU, you can't even read the related laws for a different country without bilingual lawyers to translate it to you.
  - guappa 2y ago
    > You have to figure out VAT for each country. Look, yo clearly have no experience with this. No you don't. That's just made up. I have no further interest in discussing with you if you are here just to do disinformation. > Irrelevant. There isn't an entirely separate set of laws Lol. You think states have uniform legislation in USA. Before telling us how the world works, it'd be best to learn how it works. Your mental model is rather different from the reality.
    - sofixa 2y ago
      > Look, yo clearly have no experience with this. No you don't. That's just made up. Enjoy the reading: https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/cross-border-vat/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/cross-bor... https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/where-tax_en https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/where-tax_en That's a lot of conditions, rules, and exceptions depending on what you're trading and from where to where. > You think states have uniform legislation in USA They don't, but there's lots of overlap, especially in high level areas like healthcare.