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Vimeo only gives you 2 TB bandwidth/month without negotiating an Enterprise plan. If your video goes viral, you're going to be out thousands to host it for ever

Vimeo only gives you 2 TB bandwidth/month without negotiating an Enterprise plan. If your video goes viral, you're going to be out thousands to host it for everyone. How are you going to pay for that? You could put it on credit and then show these numbers when manually negotiating the payout from your next sponsor and pay it back with the proceeds from the next video, but there's no guarantee your next video will be also a hit.

account42 2y ago
How do you think Google pays for it?
Animats 2y ago
> If your video goes viral That's what PeerTube is supposed to be for. You can set up a PeerTube host yourself. Or there are some public PeerTube hosts that accept uploads. When people are watching your videos, the ones with good bandwidth are also hosting them for other users. The hosting site is just handling the original copy and coordinating the peers. (This isn't like Bittorrent; hosting is centralized but playout is distributed. When no one is watching, the only copy is on the original server.) PeerTube really should be popular like WordPress, for self-hosted content. But it's not. Neither Google nor Bing indexes PeerTube sites, so there's no discovery. Few PeerTube videos have more than a handful of viewers. I use PeerTube for technical videos, to keep them ad-free, and it works fine for that low-volume application. Here's the Blender 4.2 showcase reel on PeerTube.[1] It's a good demo. Will it overload if watched by many HN users? Please try. [1] https://share.tube/w/uYK7X52m2Y7RyahL4wjKaM https://share.tube/w/uYK7X52m2Y7RyahL4wjKaM
- immibis 2y ago
  PeerTube is just a self-hosted video platform. Video bandwidth is legitimately expensive. You'll still be out a bunch of money if your video goes viral.
  - j45 2y ago
    There are cdns that can help..
    - MichaelZuo 2y ago
      The core issue is that someone has to pay a lot for a lot of bandwidth, or a lot of someone’s paying a bit each.
      - j45 2y ago
        I've been connecting the dots in video/bandwidth delivery. While I was digging up an additional link, it appears Cloudflare R2 allows no egress fees. https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ 10GB free to host, no egress fees. Combined with a cloudflare worker, it seems reasonable that the object storage could be managed.
        immibis 2y ago
        Now your castle is in someone else's kingdom. And in Cloudflare's kingdom, always be ready to get an email: "pay us $150,000 in 24 hours or we cancel your service"
        j45 2y ago
        My original comment was using a group of cdns. I think there’s a few. In this case you’re already paying for storage so egress is free. A 10 gig fibre connection is another way to start. The internet always costs someone.
  - treyd 2y ago
    That's why it's built on WebTorrent, to share the load across users and instances.
    - immibis 2y ago
- Zak 2y ago
  > Neither Google nor Bing indexes PeerTube sites, so there's no discovery. That's not search engines discriminating against it in this case. https://share.tube/robots.txt https://share.tube/robots.txt
password4321 2y ago
Host on a provider with "unlimited" data transfer (the legit ones are capped by rate eg. 100mbps etc.).
- account42 2y ago
  Exactly. At the end of the day Google has to pay for that bandwith too, and they manage to do it with only ads. Bandwith is not as expensive as some people think, many hosting companies just like to overcharge.

account42 2y ago

How do you think Google pays for it?

Animats 2y ago

> If your video goes viral That's what PeerTube is supposed to be for. You can set up a PeerTube host yourself. Or there are some public PeerTube hosts that accept uploads. When people are watching your videos, the ones with good bandwidth are also hosting them for other users. The hosting site is just handling the original copy and coordinating the peers. (This isn't like Bittorrent; hosting is centralized but playout is distributed. When no one is watching, the only copy is on the original server.) PeerTube really should be popular like WordPress, for self-hosted content. But it's not. Neither Google nor Bing indexes PeerTube sites, so there's no discovery. Few PeerTube videos have more than a handful of viewers. I use PeerTube for technical videos, to keep them ad-free, and it works fine for that low-volume application. Here's the Blender 4.2 showcase reel on PeerTube.[1] It's a good demo. Will it overload if watched by many HN users? Please try. [1] https://share.tube/w/uYK7X52m2Y7RyahL4wjKaM https://share.tube/w/uYK7X52m2Y7RyahL4wjKaM

immibis 2y ago
PeerTube is just a self-hosted video platform. Video bandwidth is legitimately expensive. You'll still be out a bunch of money if your video goes viral.
- j45 2y ago
  There are cdns that can help..
  - MichaelZuo 2y ago
    The core issue is that someone has to pay a lot for a lot of bandwidth, or a lot of someone’s paying a bit each.
    - j45 2y ago
      I've been connecting the dots in video/bandwidth delivery. While I was digging up an additional link, it appears Cloudflare R2 allows no egress fees. https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/r2/ 10GB free to host, no egress fees. Combined with a cloudflare worker, it seems reasonable that the object storage could be managed.
      - immibis 2y ago
        Now your castle is in someone else's kingdom. And in Cloudflare's kingdom, always be ready to get an email: "pay us $150,000 in 24 hours or we cancel your service"
        j45 2y ago
        My original comment was using a group of cdns. I think there’s a few. In this case you’re already paying for storage so egress is free. A 10 gig fibre connection is another way to start. The internet always costs someone.
- treyd 2y ago
  That's why it's built on WebTorrent, to share the load across users and instances.
  - immibis 2y ago
Zak 2y ago
> Neither Google nor Bing indexes PeerTube sites, so there's no discovery. That's not search engines discriminating against it in this case. https://share.tube/robots.txt https://share.tube/robots.txt

password4321 2y ago

Host on a provider with "unlimited" data transfer (the legit ones are capped by rate eg. 100mbps etc.).

account42 2y ago
Exactly. At the end of the day Google has to pay for that bandwith too, and they manage to do it with only ads. Bandwith is not as expensive as some people think, many hosting companies just like to overcharge.