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Yes, people had a lot of time for hobbies. Reading, writing poems, electronics. Sometimes I watch old interviews of people on the streets and compare with the i
by myth_drannon 2y ago
Yes, people had a lot of time for hobbies. Reading, writing poems, electronics.
Sometimes I watch old interviews of people on the streets and compare with the interviews they do on the streets now. It's night and day. Even people, like working class, drunk in a bar in the end of 80's collapse were more well spoken and intelligent then the people now. Either it's Putin, emigration or capitalism or whatever but there is a serious degradation in the populace.
- komali2 2y agoI've noticed this aspect in general of revolutionary societies. What I'm personally quite selfishly interested in is whether this is unique to leftist revolutionary societies - were Germans or Italians in 1936 having spirited debates about fascism and how best to serve the Fatherland? I have no idea, from what I've read so far it sounds like no. Meanwhile, for example in Spain in the same time period, there was a remarkably broad activation of the population in revolutionary activism and political engagement, which allegedly doubled productivity and dramatically increased agricultural yields, which to me indicates that the anarchists were basically everywhere (how else did they syndicalize such wide swaths of the economy?). Similarly there's the whole French Revolution cafe / salon culture.
- 082349872349872 2y agoFascism was explicitly and proudly anti-intellectual, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achille_Starace#:~:text=On%20one%20occasion,a%20proverbial%20catchphrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achille_Starace#:~:text=On%20o...
- tightbookkeeper 2y agoI think you’re missing a lot of historical context. If by “intellectual” you mean cosmopolitan university professors and government administrators then yes. This also closely associated with internalization, relativism, and Jewish culture. If by “intellectual” you mean learning, reading, thinking, then no.
- 082349872349872 2y agoThat's a novel thesis; do you have historical examples to provide a basis for believing it? (Starace, above, is already an obvious counterexample)
- tightbookkeeper 2y ago[dead]
- 082349872349872 2y agoAccording to Zoya, Birkins, boob jobs, and Jaguars are the current topics of conversation? (that said, museums did see an uptick of entries when they offered reduced rates for patrons wearing Louboutins) I blame Катя Кузнецова (1986); she wanted the red sports car with the radio and the little dog, after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=4574s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=4574s Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdP5U28jHc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdP5U28jHc
- myth_drannon 2y agoNo, that movie is about a subset of society that always existed in different forms, even in the 50's. I don't think it was showing the first shoots of degradation.
- 082349872349872 2y agoAre there any movies that might? [I'm guessing unlikely, due to the censorship? Yes, Белое солнце пустыни (1970) actually has a villain and even an on-screen shootout, but the underlying vibes are still a far cry from Брат (1997)] FWIW, Lavrov still seems to wax poetic from time to time (although I haven't read anything of his since «Нет, ничто в этом мире не ново...»). Shnur obviously has something to say (although in the last few years* he seems to be saying it less clearly and more cryptically), but he's not any more the man in the street than Lavrov. Also, I'm not sure (a) how serious you were about this thesis, nor (b) if the degradation to which you allude significantly overlaps with what I might assume to have been degradation... * which produced their own emigration wave? looking at israel these days I wonder if much of that has become "out of the fire, into the frying pan"?