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> So if you would hire someone to redo your bathroom or kitchen, you would hire them without an estimate and quote as long as they divide the project into small
by nine_zeros 2y ago
> So if you would hire someone to redo your bathroom or kitchen, you would hire them without an estimate and quote as long as they divide the project into small tasks?
I love these general contractor analogies because it tells me that these people don't understand software engineering.
Here's an answer for you: the vast majority of software engineering is less like repetitive contracting and more like unpredictable lab experimentation.
It is up to management and business to decide if they are skilled and willing to accept the nature of software engineering.
- tuna74 2y ago"Here's an answer for you: the vast majority of software engineering is less like repetitive contracting and more like unpredictable lab experimentation." I kind of doubt this, but have no numbers to back me up. Do you have any numbers or actual facts to support that statement?
- nine_zeros 2y ago> I kind of doubt this, but have no numbers to back me up. Do you have any numbers or actual facts to support that statement? I don't have a measure of it but Google and Facebook did - and they found that estimation is BS and never achieved. They never institute scrum/kanban/agile nonsense as a result. Without data, the constant and persistent failure to estimate projects - over 40 years - should be good enough data.
- tuna74 2y agoOn my main project at work we hit exactly 100% estimation of tasks in February this year. In March we were like 110%. Estimation of tasks and projects are two completely different things.