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> Only if you try to package it and sell it en masse. Ryujinx wasn't being sold, it was being given away for free. > Someone else distributed a tool that can

by kibwen 2y ago

> Only if you try to package it and sell it en masse. Ryujinx wasn't being sold, it was being given away for free. > Someone else distributed a tool that can be argued as used to bypass copyright By this logic your entire computer is a tool to bypass copyright. An emulator is just a virtual machine, it doesn't contain any games or other copyrighted material. They are legal, despite Nintendo's mafioso scare tactics.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
"packaged and distributed en masses" is you want to be nitpicky. I don't get to get away with dealing illegal substances just because I give it away for free. Money simply puts a target on my back. >your entire computer is a tool to bypass copyright Reducto ad absurdum doesn't really work here. There are specific scopes and use cases taken into consideration when considering what tools or works are bypassing copyright. I cant claim Yuzu is the same as VMware in their use cases (especially when VMware had to work with Microsoft to have that be allowed. And why it can't legally distribute Mac OS Tom's freely).
- kibwen 2y ago
  I must ask you to please stop commenting all over this thread if you have such demonstrably little idea what you're talking about.
  - boltzmann-brain 2y ago
    Probably the best comment I've seen in this subthread so far.
- ehaliewicz2 2y ago
  "I don't get to get away with dealing illegal substances just because I give it away for free." Good to see you want virtual machines to be illegal.
- FactKnower69 2y ago
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matheusmoreira 2y ago
> By this logic your entire computer is a tool to bypass copyright. That is the logic of copyright monopolists. Free computing is subversive. It has the power to wipe out their entire business model like it was nothing. They don't want that. That's why they sign deals with the likes of Intel and AMD so that our processors come pwned straight off the factory. "Our" computers haven't been ours for a long time now. They hide secrets from us. They have "protected video paths", "remote attestation", "platform keys", etc. These are all tools the monopolists use to make "our" computers do their bidding. Run all programs, except the ones that affect our bottom line. We want to copy but monopolists say no, and our computers obey.
- boltzmann-brain 2y ago
  Exactly. People have been unsuccessfully ringing the bell on this ever since DeCSS. It's 25 years this month. The general population isn't informed about this, they don't care and they don't have the capacity to know and even if they did, they wouldn't want to know. Thankfully, people are slowly waking up to this. With an ECI like Stop Killing Games, you don't need the genpop to decide that this is bad. You just need a million good men and women. It's much easier to find a million people who understand something is a problem and sign an EU initiative than to find 6 billion people who will understand something is a problem AND vote with their wallet.

by kibwen 2y ago

johnnyanmac 2y ago

"packaged and distributed en masses" is you want to be nitpicky. I don't get to get away with dealing illegal substances just because I give it away for free. Money simply puts a target on my back. >your entire computer is a tool to bypass copyright Reducto ad absurdum doesn't really work here. There are specific scopes and use cases taken into consideration when considering what tools or works are bypassing copyright. I cant claim Yuzu is the same as VMware in their use cases (especially when VMware had to work with Microsoft to have that be allowed. And why it can't legally distribute Mac OS Tom's freely).

kibwen 2y ago
I must ask you to please stop commenting all over this thread if you have such demonstrably little idea what you're talking about.
- boltzmann-brain 2y ago
  Probably the best comment I've seen in this subthread so far.
ehaliewicz2 2y ago
"I don't get to get away with dealing illegal substances just because I give it away for free." Good to see you want virtual machines to be illegal.
FactKnower69 2y ago
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matheusmoreira 2y ago

> By this logic your entire computer is a tool to bypass copyright. That is the logic of copyright monopolists. Free computing is subversive. It has the power to wipe out their entire business model like it was nothing. They don't want that. That's why they sign deals with the likes of Intel and AMD so that our processors come pwned straight off the factory. "Our" computers haven't been ours for a long time now. They hide secrets from us. They have "protected video paths", "remote attestation", "platform keys", etc. These are all tools the monopolists use to make "our" computers do their bidding. Run all programs, except the ones that affect our bottom line. We want to copy but monopolists say no, and our computers obey.

boltzmann-brain 2y ago
Exactly. People have been unsuccessfully ringing the bell on this ever since DeCSS. It's 25 years this month. The general population isn't informed about this, they don't care and they don't have the capacity to know and even if they did, they wouldn't want to know. Thankfully, people are slowly waking up to this. With an ECI like Stop Killing Games, you don't need the genpop to decide that this is bad. You just need a million good men and women. It's much easier to find a million people who understand something is a problem and sign an EU initiative than to find 6 billion people who will understand something is a problem AND vote with their wallet.