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>bad formatting If you can elaborate, I would very much appreciate it. I'm always interested in doing better. Why use Puppeteer etc. when you don't have to? W

>bad formatting If you can elaborate, I would very much appreciate it. I'm always interested in doing better. Why use Puppeteer etc. when you don't have to? What is the argument for using these additional tools versus not using them?

gabrielsroka 2y ago
The red text on a yellow background is not great. Neither is a serif font. Also it should be JavaScript with a capital S.
- 8chanAnon 2y ago
  Red text on yellow - you mean the website? Would you like the text to be darker? And Beautiful Soup should be BeautifulSoup. Who makes the rules?
  - gabrielsroka 2y ago
    Yes, the website. Better contrast is good. Black on white works great. Margins would also be nice on the left and right. Beautiful Soup is two words. Just look at their website.
    - bityard 2y ago
      Too much contrast makes it hard to read too. (With bonus eye strain.)
      - 8chanAnon 2y ago
        Is there a happy in-between? Maybe not. What looks perfect to one user might appear atrocious to another. What is a poor website operator to do??? I dislike black-on-white and don't understand gray-on-black which seems to be popular now due to gamma settings being cranked up to 11 or something. I try to use some color as an in-between but that may take some time to "perfect".
        gabrielsroka 2y ago
        Even Google Chrome's Lighthouse said that your background and foreground colors do not have a sufficient contrast ratio.
        8chanAnon 2y ago
        Every dark mode site in existence should fail that test.
        dewey 2y ago
        No, because the contrast can still be good as the colors are just reversed?
        pwg 2y ago
        > Is there a happy in-between? Since browsers allow users to configure a default font and background color then one possible "happy in-between" would be to set no background color, and set no font color, thereby allowing each user agent (i.e., browser) to display the site with that user's default background and font colors. In that case, each viewer should get their preferred colors, all without you doing anything.
dewey 2y ago
You don't have max-width set on the text, so unless you have your browser window resized to very small size the paragraphs will span your whole screen.
- 8chanAnon 2y ago
  I see. I don't have a wide-screen monitor (still using an old tube type until it finally expires but it's taking a few decades, lol). I've wondered whether people actually like reading websites on wide-screen. Some do and some don't. What would you suggest for a max width? You could also try zooming in. My apps don't expand to full width because of the video box but you can zoom.
  - dewey 2y ago
    There's a lot of info about this but usually 500-700px or ~80 characters will be much easier to read: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/108801/what-is-the-best-number-of-paragraph-width-for-readability https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/108801/what-is-the-be...
- pwg 2y ago
  Which places you, the reader, fully in control of the width of lines you prefer to see. Adjust your browser window width, or apply a user style sheet to tell your browser to format the text the way you want to see it formatted.
  - dewey 2y ago
    I knew this reply would come... How many people do you think use custom browser stylesheets? It's probably smaller than 0.1% of the internet population and everyone moved on to formatting text so everyone can enjoy good readability. Also not all devices have the luxury of supporting custom stylesheets. Of course it's always up to the site owner, but most people want people to read what they share.
  - nsonha 2y ago
    > Adjust your browser window width, or apply a user style sheet very funny, both jokes
ricardo81 2y ago
Cloudflare et al do a lot of fingerprinting of the user agent. Any website that has 'high' anti-bot settings will return a 403 with anything but a browser. source: I've scraped lots of things.

gabrielsroka 2y ago

The red text on a yellow background is not great. Neither is a serif font. Also it should be JavaScript with a capital S.

8chanAnon 2y ago
Red text on yellow - you mean the website? Would you like the text to be darker? And Beautiful Soup should be BeautifulSoup. Who makes the rules?
- gabrielsroka 2y ago
  Yes, the website. Better contrast is good. Black on white works great. Margins would also be nice on the left and right. Beautiful Soup is two words. Just look at their website.
  - bityard 2y ago
    Too much contrast makes it hard to read too. (With bonus eye strain.)
    - 8chanAnon 2y ago
      Is there a happy in-between? Maybe not. What looks perfect to one user might appear atrocious to another. What is a poor website operator to do??? I dislike black-on-white and don't understand gray-on-black which seems to be popular now due to gamma settings being cranked up to 11 or something. I try to use some color as an in-between but that may take some time to "perfect".
      - gabrielsroka 2y ago
        Even Google Chrome's Lighthouse said that your background and foreground colors do not have a sufficient contrast ratio.
        8chanAnon 2y ago
        Every dark mode site in existence should fail that test.
        dewey 2y ago
        No, because the contrast can still be good as the colors are just reversed?
      - pwg 2y ago
        > Is there a happy in-between? Since browsers allow users to configure a default font and background color then one possible "happy in-between" would be to set no background color, and set no font color, thereby allowing each user agent (i.e., browser) to display the site with that user's default background and font colors. In that case, each viewer should get their preferred colors, all without you doing anything.

dewey 2y ago

You don't have max-width set on the text, so unless you have your browser window resized to very small size the paragraphs will span your whole screen.

8chanAnon 2y ago
I see. I don't have a wide-screen monitor (still using an old tube type until it finally expires but it's taking a few decades, lol). I've wondered whether people actually like reading websites on wide-screen. Some do and some don't. What would you suggest for a max width? You could also try zooming in. My apps don't expand to full width because of the video box but you can zoom.
- dewey 2y ago
  There's a lot of info about this but usually 500-700px or ~80 characters will be much easier to read: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/108801/what-is-the-best-number-of-paragraph-width-for-readability https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/108801/what-is-the-be...
pwg 2y ago
Which places you, the reader, fully in control of the width of lines you prefer to see. Adjust your browser window width, or apply a user style sheet to tell your browser to format the text the way you want to see it formatted.
- dewey 2y ago
  I knew this reply would come... How many people do you think use custom browser stylesheets? It's probably smaller than 0.1% of the internet population and everyone moved on to formatting text so everyone can enjoy good readability. Also not all devices have the luxury of supporting custom stylesheets. Of course it's always up to the site owner, but most people want people to read what they share.
- nsonha 2y ago
  > Adjust your browser window width, or apply a user style sheet very funny, both jokes

ricardo81 2y ago

Cloudflare et al do a lot of fingerprinting of the user agent. Any website that has 'high' anti-bot settings will return a 403 with anything but a browser. source: I've scraped lots of things.