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I couldn’t upvote this enough. A lot of drive-by cynicism I see these days is really just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions (this guy must be an idi

I couldn’t upvote this enough. A lot of drive-by cynicism I see these days is really just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions (this guy must be an idiot, etc.). I see it a lot in practice especially when discussing early-stage business ideas.

chipdart 2y ago
> A lot of drive-by cynicism I see these days is really just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions (this guy must be an idiot, etc.). You're talking if guys pitching overpriced and underquality gear is completely unheard of, or if flawed business ideas are a rare occurrence. I get it, support and enthusiasm is always nice to have. But if you descend into the real world you'll see that more often than not you'll see a mix of fraud and overconfident people pitching undercooked ideas that they under deliver, and you're criticizing those who might as well have experienced that first-hand for a few times.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  Well, I guess since I disagree with you, I must be an inhabitant of this non-real world. Dang, I wish I’d thought to deem myself the arbiter of reality. But from here, floating in the imaginary clouds, the error of the cynics was pretty easy to spot. It was that there are different types of wheelchairs and the cynics were just googling up the bargain-basement mass produced ones. I guess in the real world everything (including medical devices) is one-size-fits-all?
- kelnos 2y ago
  There's another choice, though: instead of being a drive-by cynic, just move on and don't comment. It's not like these people are providing a valuable service, steering everyone away from the dumb scams. They're just pattern matching and assuming everything they doesn't seem to make sense (in their generally not-well-informed opinion) must be bad. It's unnecessary, and is noise just as often as it's not.
  - chipdart 2y ago
    > There's another choice, though: instead of being a drive-by cynic, just move on and don't comment. Unfortunately that recommendation is also pushed by snakeoil salesmen.
KennyBlanken 2y ago
> just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions The word you're looking for is "arrogance." HN comment sections are no better than reddit, if not worse, with people arrogantly making all sorts of statements that are demonstrably false with a simple google search.
- zeroq 2y ago
  HN demographic is worse in the sense that you have more people who think if they earn more than they peers their opinion weights more.

chipdart 2y ago

> A lot of drive-by cynicism I see these days is really just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions (this guy must be an idiot, etc.). You're talking if guys pitching overpriced and underquality gear is completely unheard of, or if flawed business ideas are a rare occurrence. I get it, support and enthusiasm is always nice to have. But if you descend into the real world you'll see that more often than not you'll see a mix of fraud and overconfident people pitching undercooked ideas that they under deliver, and you're criticizing those who might as well have experienced that first-hand for a few times.

bee_rider 2y ago
Well, I guess since I disagree with you, I must be an inhabitant of this non-real world. Dang, I wish I’d thought to deem myself the arbiter of reality. But from here, floating in the imaginary clouds, the error of the cynics was pretty easy to spot. It was that there are different types of wheelchairs and the cynics were just googling up the bargain-basement mass produced ones. I guess in the real world everything (including medical devices) is one-size-fits-all?
kelnos 2y ago
There's another choice, though: instead of being a drive-by cynic, just move on and don't comment. It's not like these people are providing a valuable service, steering everyone away from the dumb scams. They're just pattern matching and assuming everything they doesn't seem to make sense (in their generally not-well-informed opinion) must be bad. It's unnecessary, and is noise just as often as it's not.
- chipdart 2y ago
  > There's another choice, though: instead of being a drive-by cynic, just move on and don't comment. Unfortunately that recommendation is also pushed by snakeoil salesmen.

KennyBlanken 2y ago

> just a lack of curiosity and bad faith assumptions The word you're looking for is "arrogance." HN comment sections are no better than reddit, if not worse, with people arrogantly making all sorts of statements that are demonstrably false with a simple google search.

zeroq 2y ago
HN demographic is worse in the sense that you have more people who think if they earn more than they peers their opinion weights more.