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I wonder how many people out there would take an assault charge to win a bet. Since there’s a market you could even get investors. Get $10million together, bet

I wonder how many people out there would take an assault charge to win a bet. Since there’s a market you could even get investors. Get $10million together, bet it with high odds, take 25% cut, spend 10 years in jail, live out the rest of your life in comfort. Is any of that illegal besides the assault itself?

stonogo 2y ago
Very much so. Even planning it, without carrying it out, would be subject to criminal conspiracy charges. Recruiting people to the scheme (even the investors) would be soliciting a crime. It's illegal to interfere in the outcome of the game once the bet is placed. Finally, once it was proven you rigged it, you'd probably be forced to return the winnings anyway. I'm sure an actual attorney could come up with even more reasons this is illegal.
- singleshot_ 2y ago
  Doesn’t conspiracy require an act in furtherance of the crime? Are you sure that the party who has solicited the crime is not the investors? What makes it illegal to interfere in the outcome?
- idontwantthis 2y ago
  Well darn.
  - troyvit 2y ago
    Don't give up. You just need more investors to spread the risk :)
Enginerrrd 2y ago
I'd think you'ď be VERY hard pressed to bet $10 million dollars, but I don't know that.
- not2b 2y ago
  Pretend to be 1,000 people, and each sock puppet bets $10k.
  - scrivna 2y ago
    Who’s taking the other side of the bet though? No smart bookie will dig themselves in such a hole, it would obviously be fraud and they’d stop accepting bets
    - not2b 2y ago
      One of the massive platforms, like DraftKings. They won't even notice. The point of all this is the effect of making sports betting legal.
qb1 2y ago
Criminal conspiracy. The agreement to commit the crime is the crime. Not the assault. That is another crime.
- mass_and_energy 2y ago
  A predicate action must be taken in order for this to stick. However, this can be literally anything to move down the proposed path of conspiracy. So if you made the plan then downloaded the app, that's criminal conspiracy

stonogo 2y ago

Very much so. Even planning it, without carrying it out, would be subject to criminal conspiracy charges. Recruiting people to the scheme (even the investors) would be soliciting a crime. It's illegal to interfere in the outcome of the game once the bet is placed. Finally, once it was proven you rigged it, you'd probably be forced to return the winnings anyway. I'm sure an actual attorney could come up with even more reasons this is illegal.

singleshot_ 2y ago
Doesn’t conspiracy require an act in furtherance of the crime? Are you sure that the party who has solicited the crime is not the investors? What makes it illegal to interfere in the outcome?
idontwantthis 2y ago
Well darn.
- troyvit 2y ago
  Don't give up. You just need more investors to spread the risk :)

Enginerrrd 2y ago

I'd think you'ď be VERY hard pressed to bet $10 million dollars, but I don't know that.

not2b 2y ago
Pretend to be 1,000 people, and each sock puppet bets $10k.
- scrivna 2y ago
  Who’s taking the other side of the bet though? No smart bookie will dig themselves in such a hole, it would obviously be fraud and they’d stop accepting bets
  - not2b 2y ago
    One of the massive platforms, like DraftKings. They won't even notice. The point of all this is the effect of making sports betting legal.

qb1 2y ago

Criminal conspiracy. The agreement to commit the crime is the crime. Not the assault. That is another crime.

mass_and_energy 2y ago
A predicate action must be taken in order for this to stick. However, this can be literally anything to move down the proposed path of conspiracy. So if you made the plan then downloaded the app, that's criminal conspiracy