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Iran just launched over 400 ballistic missiles at Israel
- melodyogonna 2y agoWhere does this lead?
- willmadden 2y agoI'm listening to Mario Nawfal and a bunch of pundits/experts. Some are saying that the attack was to frustrate Israel's air defenses, but the red line hasn't been crossed. Others are saying we don't know yet until the damage reports are in.
- Molitor5901 2y agoWhat is the red line, and are you referring to the Samson Option? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
- Molitor5901 2y agoSo there's no red line?
- worik 2y ago> I'm listening to Mario Nawfal I am curious. Why? I looked him up. Is he not a scammer?
- pinewurst 2y agohttps://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/mario-nawfal-twitter-elon-musk-rise-allegations-rcna92132 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/mario-nawfal-twitter-...
- willmadden 2y agoHe hosts the show but it's not him doing 99% of the talking.
- kranke155 2y agoWar. I suppose. Wonder about the effect in the US and the election. I can see today's debate being about this.
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- willmadden 2y agoFrom the footage it looks like the majority of the ballistic missiles are getting through the Israel's defenses. Their missiles travel between mach 5 and mach 16, so that makes sense. Somehow there are no reports of Israeli casualties (yet). We'll see how Israel responds, or if they keep their focus on southern Lebanon.
- sandworm101 2y ago>> are getting through the Israel's defenses. Or are being detected, tracked, and ignored unless they are likely to land somewhere important.
- hersko 2y agoThis seems likely based on the casualty number being reported. Also, Israel is claiming many intercepts so not sure how accurate it is to stay most are getting through.
- lamontcg 2y agoQuite a few of them are clearly getting through: https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ftt06t/dozens_of_iranian_ballistic_missiles_directly/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ftt06t/doze... https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1fttep9/multiple_ballistic_rocket_impacts_in_israel_now/ https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1fttep9/mult... I'm greatly skeptical that nobody else has been killed, and that damage is minimal.
- xpl 2y agoIt is definitely not in major cities, otherwise we would've already known. It might be that Iran doesn't want to cause any real damage (as then Israel would destroy its oil industry and nuclear sites in retaliation) — it only wants to save face. For that, a media picture of "hundreds of missiles falling on Israel" would perfectly suffice — they can sell it domestically. Just bomb some bushes and deserts and call it a day.
- JohnMakin 2y ago[redacted] cant seem to find an archive link for this one
- iancmceachern 2y agoThis isn't the same article as OP
- dredmorbius 2y agoIf you check A.T.'s article history, it appears WSJ edited the piece in place as updates came in. Initial archives are of pending attack. Later ones describe the attack after it had occurred.
- hersko 2y agoI wonder if the Iranian nuclear facilities will last the week.
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- Gud 2y agoIran doesn’t have nukes.
- JohnMakin 2y agoNot really trying to start a political debate, but, > would be a significant escalation that threatens to spark an all-out war in the Middle East that the Biden administration has desperately tried to avoid. Did they, though? Because every single action the US has taken in the last ~year seems to have been leading to this exact outcome.
- kranke155 2y agoYou must've missed the fact that Biden has been pushing for deescalation for ages.
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- JohnMakin 2y agoNo, I didn't miss that, nor did I miss the millions of dollars of weapons this administration has also sent, nor the warships and troops - that doesn't seem very "de-escalate"y to me, personally, but maybe I'm nuts.
- legitster 2y ago> nor the warships and troops I am not sure what you are implying - the US parking warships nearby seems like a strong deterrent. It didn't work this time, but it didn't mean it's a bad idea.
- kranke155 2y agoDeliberate misunderstandings or just a general incomprehension of how deterrence works. You use deterrence to prevent a bigger conflict. It's on Israel and its leadership (Bibi) that they used the lull between their increasingly brazen attacks against their opponents as an excuse to launch a full scale invasion of a neighbouring country.
- ciconia 2y agoIsraeli media says "close to 200". https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-01/ty-article-live/nsc-spox-u-s-supports-limited-israeli-operations-in-lebanon-to-protect-citizens/00000192-45ff-da69-a797-5fff1f610000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-01/ty-article-li...
- pinewurst 2y agoJpost says 180. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822801 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822801
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- beaglessss 2y agoSomething like half of adults in Israeli controlled territory are disenfranchised. They're hardly a democracy imo.
- worik 2y agoIt is not the lack of democracy that we condemn Israel for. It is apartheid in the West Bank and genocide in Gaza
- pbiggar 2y agoThough to be clear, that apartheid is an example of a lack of democracy.
- raxxorraxor 2y agoI don't believe you as there is more apartheid in almost all surrounding countries, mostly on religious grounds. Apartheid isn't really a fitting term though. The reality for Israel is that all inhabitants are better off in Israel anyway. There also was and is no genocide in Gaza, this is mostly projection by people sympathetic to Hamas or similar terror organizations.
- aguaviva 2y agoThe reality for Israel is that all inhabitants are better off in Israel anyway. The inhabitants of the occupied territories (and those within pre-1967 borders forced to accept Israeli citizenship) are perfectly capable of deciding that matter for themselves. I'll take their word over yours.
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- worik 2y agoOn the West Bank only one race has full civil rights. What you call that?
- willmadden 2y agoWhy was this post flagged? Is this not news?
- jgrahamc 2y agoI don't specifically know but I would guess that this sort of news is widely available on other news websites and people feel it isn't specifically Hacker News content.
- legitster 2y agoThere's going to be a lot of very low quality discussion in this thread.
- willmadden 2y agoYou don't think very highly of HN contributors I see.
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- librasteve 2y agooh no there isnt
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- rich_sasha 2y agoThe broader conflict is of course very complex, nuanced, and incredibly cruel to civilians on all sides, but from a purely technical point of view, if the Israeli losses are as low as confirmed, this is an incredible feat of military technology. I get that the Iranian rockets are somewhat dumb, but even then there were hundreds of them. And Iran still probably ranks quite high on military kit sophistication (at least among the adversaries of the Global West)
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoIran gave Israel advance warning and only targeted military sites. That's why there were no casualties. There are many videos of missile impacts, so the lack of casualties is not because the missiles were intercepted.
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- raxxorraxor 2y agoThis sound completely honest and not at all like you are unhappy there weren't many casualties.
- dredmorbius 2y agoArchive / paywall: <https://archive.is/3dFBz https://archive.is/3dFBz>