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> I'm not sure what he gains from continued intransigence offers after Mozilla admits their mistake and apologizes. What would he gain from submission to Mozil

> I'm not sure what he gains from continued intransigence offers after Mozilla admits their mistake and apologizes. What would he gain from submission to Mozilla? Either way he gains $0 for all the work he's done to improve the Internet for millions of people.

AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
He gains Mozilla's distribution model and audience, which allows users of Firefox to download add-ons from their browser's UI and updates automatically, rather than having to manually pull an extension file from a Github page for each new release and install it.
- phoronixrly 2y ago
  That's a long-winded way to say $0
  - Crespyl 2y ago
    Time and effort are usually considered to be worth some amount of money.
    - carlosjobim 2y ago
      Time and effort is what he spends, $0 is what he gains.
  - AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
    You gain $0 for uploading your Linux package to yum/apt/dnf as well, but you recognize that there's value in being able to install such packages easily through a well-curated repository, no?
    - okanat 2y ago
      Well you, the programmer, usually don't upload it. Some package maintainer does it since they want your software and ideally they should handle the bug reports for their package as well.
- SSLy 2y ago
  > allows users of Firefox to download add-ons from their browser's UI and updates automatically, rather than having to manually pull an extension file from a Github page for each new release and install it. only because mozilla is gatekeeping that away otherwise.
  - abhinavk 2y ago
    For extensions which have full access to all websites, I appreciate that. That is one of the main reasons for ManifestV3 because not all extensions can be reviewed.
- witrak 2y ago
  I agree with one exception: > [...] and audience [...] If you take into account small market share of Firefox and even smaller percentage of Firefox user needing uBOL then "audience" isn't anything important in this case. Perhaps this whole story will increase popularity of uBOL more...

AdmiralAsshat 2y ago

He gains Mozilla's distribution model and audience, which allows users of Firefox to download add-ons from their browser's UI and updates automatically, rather than having to manually pull an extension file from a Github page for each new release and install it.

phoronixrly 2y ago
That's a long-winded way to say $0
- Crespyl 2y ago
  Time and effort are usually considered to be worth some amount of money.
  - carlosjobim 2y ago
    Time and effort is what he spends, $0 is what he gains.
- AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
  You gain $0 for uploading your Linux package to yum/apt/dnf as well, but you recognize that there's value in being able to install such packages easily through a well-curated repository, no?
  - okanat 2y ago
    Well you, the programmer, usually don't upload it. Some package maintainer does it since they want your software and ideally they should handle the bug reports for their package as well.
SSLy 2y ago
> allows users of Firefox to download add-ons from their browser's UI and updates automatically, rather than having to manually pull an extension file from a Github page for each new release and install it. only because mozilla is gatekeeping that away otherwise.
- abhinavk 2y ago
  For extensions which have full access to all websites, I appreciate that. That is one of the main reasons for ManifestV3 because not all extensions can be reviewed.
witrak 2y ago
I agree with one exception: > [...] and audience [...] If you take into account small market share of Firefox and even smaller percentage of Firefox user needing uBOL then "audience" isn't anything important in this case. Perhaps this whole story will increase popularity of uBOL more...