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Sigh. It's the usual multi-millionaire CEO that can buy a multi-million apartment 15 minutes from the office telling staff that would have a 90 minute commute

Sigh. It's the usual multi-millionaire CEO that can buy a multi-million apartment 15 minutes from the office telling staff that would have a 90 minute commute in hellish traffic or public transport and the physical and mental toll that ensues, to come into a noisy open-plan office to try and concentrate on a job, whilst moaning about productivity and costs. Want me in your office? Give me an *office* with a door that shuts. And don't stop me from working from home if I need to sort out "life". Stop being cheap. "Come and work* for our multinational company and collaborate with smart colleagues around the world" *must physically be in office to work with team 2000 miles and three timezones away over Zoom/Slack

eddiewithzato 2y ago
Open plan offices remind me of factories, they want to return back to the good ol days.
- vundercind 2y ago
  They look like early 20th century accounting offices, when a lot of that was rote copy work (no copy machines, after all!). Like the office from The Crowd (1928): https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HBKHYR/the-crowd-1928-HBKHYR.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HBKHYR/the-crowd-1928-HBKHYR.jpg Sorry for the crappy watermarked image, best I saw. Movie’s pretty good if you can tolerate silent films.
vundercind 2y ago
> Want me in your office? Give me an office with a door that shuts. And don't stop me from working from home if I need to sort out "life". Stop being cheap. The finance and MBA folks have been busy for years trying to kick everyone else (doctors, lawyers, professors) out of the upper-middle class. It’s bad enough programmers make enough money to fit in that group, they’re not gonna let us have the perks and autonomy that come with it if they can avoid it.
spacemadness 2y ago
The mental gymnastics with RTO and the global workforce reality is what pisses me off the most. American corporations have shipped so many jobs overseas and teams are distributed so widely it’s ludicrous to talk about the supposed RTO benefits for many people. I have coworkers forced to go to an office just because HR demands it but work with people overseas and in other states a majority of their day. We get up extra early to have meetings with engineers in low cost countries that replaced local engineers. And the trend continues.

eddiewithzato 2y ago

Open plan offices remind me of factories, they want to return back to the good ol days.

vundercind 2y ago
They look like early 20th century accounting offices, when a lot of that was rote copy work (no copy machines, after all!). Like the office from The Crowd (1928): https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HBKHYR/the-crowd-1928-HBKHYR.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HBKHYR/the-crowd-1928-HBKHYR.jpg Sorry for the crappy watermarked image, best I saw. Movie’s pretty good if you can tolerate silent films.

vundercind 2y ago

> Want me in your office? Give me an office with a door that shuts. And don't stop me from working from home if I need to sort out "life". Stop being cheap. The finance and MBA folks have been busy for years trying to kick everyone else (doctors, lawyers, professors) out of the upper-middle class. It’s bad enough programmers make enough money to fit in that group, they’re not gonna let us have the perks and autonomy that come with it if they can avoid it.

spacemadness 2y ago

The mental gymnastics with RTO and the global workforce reality is what pisses me off the most. American corporations have shipped so many jobs overseas and teams are distributed so widely it’s ludicrous to talk about the supposed RTO benefits for many people. I have coworkers forced to go to an office just because HR demands it but work with people overseas and in other states a majority of their day. We get up extra early to have meetings with engineers in low cost countries that replaced local engineers. And the trend continues.