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> Without tips many people in the service sector could not get by. I don't think that's necessarily true. In Japan tipping is a faux pas, and in fact restaura

> Without tips many people in the service sector could not get by. I don't think that's necessarily true. In Japan tipping is a faux pas, and in fact restaurants will often return or refuse to accept them, yet the service sector is massive and the quality of service tends to be extraordinary. Much of Europe is similar, especially in eastern and southern parts. In China tipping is just not done... How is it that they all get by, but the US service sector can't?

nelsonic 2y ago
Indeed, people working in services in Japan people are paid significantly better than in the US/UK so tips aren't required. Also the culture is totally different and I prefer it that way too. But using Japan as an example for this is like a red herring. The US/UK is not Japan. Just lookup "Cheating culture in Japan": https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/5cnmy8/cheating_culture_in_japan/?rdt=64452 https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/5cnmy8/cheating_cult... would that work in US/UK? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (hint: no!)
- A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
  > people working in services in Japan people are paid significantly better than in the US/UK lol, no. They're paid less, on average. https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/waiter-waitress/japan https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/waiter-waitress/japan https://www.talent.com/salary?job=waiter https://www.talent.com/salary?job=waiter At worst, it's comparable. You could make a complicated argument that costs of living in Japan are lower so on pseudo-PPP terms they're paid better, but this is by no means clear. > Japan as an example for this is like a red herring. The US/UK is not Japan. Just lookup "Cheating culture in Japan" The red herring is raising totally unrelated behavior from a Reddit post. In truth, most of Asia's tipping culture is much like Japan's. China's 1.4B denizens don't tip. I'm in Croatia and nobody tips here, either. It's only expected of tourists.
  - nelsonic 2y ago
    And the OP is related to the UK where tipping is normal and often expected.

nelsonic 2y ago

Indeed, people working in services in Japan people are paid significantly better than in the US/UK so tips aren't required. Also the culture is totally different and I prefer it that way too. But using Japan as an example for this is like a red herring. The US/UK is not Japan. Just lookup "Cheating culture in Japan": https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/5cnmy8/cheating_culture_in_japan/?rdt=64452 https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/5cnmy8/cheating_cult... would that work in US/UK? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (hint: no!)

A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
> people working in services in Japan people are paid significantly better than in the US/UK lol, no. They're paid less, on average. https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/waiter-waitress/japan https://www.erieri.com/salary/job/waiter-waitress/japan https://www.talent.com/salary?job=waiter https://www.talent.com/salary?job=waiter At worst, it's comparable. You could make a complicated argument that costs of living in Japan are lower so on pseudo-PPP terms they're paid better, but this is by no means clear. > Japan as an example for this is like a red herring. The US/UK is not Japan. Just lookup "Cheating culture in Japan" The red herring is raising totally unrelated behavior from a Reddit post. In truth, most of Asia's tipping culture is much like Japan's. China's 1.4B denizens don't tip. I'm in Croatia and nobody tips here, either. It's only expected of tourists.
- nelsonic 2y ago
  And the OP is related to the UK where tipping is normal and often expected.