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Yeah so some Dutch guy wants to bring the community together while washing clothes communally. Uh, no. I’ve done it. It’s exhausting, backbreaking, shockingly i

by tomcam 2y ago

Yeah so some Dutch guy wants to bring the community together while washing clothes communally. Uh, no. I’ve done it. It’s exhausting, backbreaking, shockingly inefficient, and feels gross. Someone’s going to slack off, people will gossip, etc.

tirant 2y ago
I was still a kid when everyone (well, only women, men were working in the fields) in our village was going to the irrigation channel in the street with a piece of wood, a bar of soap and the dirty clothes to do the laundry. It was social and those women enjoyed the company. Once washing machines became common, no one chose to go back to do the laundry by hand. They decided to walk together and just chat. I find unbelievable that a Dutch PhD candidate is so ignorant about the world around him and especially about the tough work that many women had to endure to wash the laundry. What is next? Asking farmers to stop using tractors and go back to horses and mules, while reducing our farming productivity 1:100 and as a consecuence a multiplication of the price of food? These modern socialist ideas of degrowth are very dangerous, specially for poor people. And that really exposes how far away are these intellectuals from the real world and from the same poor people they claim to support.
- Ekaros 2y ago
  Maybe these people should do practical experiment with this. Find a group and then do the thing for some sufficient period say 1 year. And only then come out and tell if it is good idea or not. Could even make paper out of it.
- lores 2y ago
  Unfortunately, most people do PhDs when they are young and have limited experience of the world. It's not a problem in sciences, it is in sociology and politics. Those degrees should require the candidate to be a minimum age and/or pass a general life experience test, and I say that as a socialist.
Yizahi 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  Please don't use HN for political or ideological or nationalistic flamewar. Your comment here is a noticeable step in that direction, and we're trying to avoid it here. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - Yizahi 2y ago
    Sorry, I got carried away. Won't do it again.

by tomcam 2y ago

tirant 2y ago

I was still a kid when everyone (well, only women, men were working in the fields) in our village was going to the irrigation channel in the street with a piece of wood, a bar of soap and the dirty clothes to do the laundry. It was social and those women enjoyed the company. Once washing machines became common, no one chose to go back to do the laundry by hand. They decided to walk together and just chat. I find unbelievable that a Dutch PhD candidate is so ignorant about the world around him and especially about the tough work that many women had to endure to wash the laundry. What is next? Asking farmers to stop using tractors and go back to horses and mules, while reducing our farming productivity 1:100 and as a consecuence a multiplication of the price of food? These modern socialist ideas of degrowth are very dangerous, specially for poor people. And that really exposes how far away are these intellectuals from the real world and from the same poor people they claim to support.

Ekaros 2y ago
Maybe these people should do practical experiment with this. Find a group and then do the thing for some sufficient period say 1 year. And only then come out and tell if it is good idea or not. Could even make paper out of it.
lores 2y ago
Unfortunately, most people do PhDs when they are young and have limited experience of the world. It's not a problem in sciences, it is in sociology and politics. Those degrees should require the candidate to be a minimum age and/or pass a general life experience test, and I say that as a socialist.

Yizahi 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
Please don't use HN for political or ideological or nationalistic flamewar. Your comment here is a noticeable step in that direction, and we're trying to avoid it here. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- Yizahi 2y ago
  Sorry, I got carried away. Won't do it again.