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If that is indeed what got funded, those changes appear to be extremely minimal and benign and I can understand why people would have an issue with funding this

by nusl 2y ago

If that is indeed what got funded, those changes appear to be extremely minimal and benign and I can understand why people would have an issue with funding this.

nojvek 2y ago
Chrome + Electron codebase is a gazillion lines of code. If someone builds an electron app and gets VC funded, is that somehow unethical? Lines of code is irrelevant. Only issue is if they are building on top of a codebase whose license they have violated.
- falcor84 2y ago
  > Lines of code is irrelevant. Let's take it to the extreme - how much would you fund a "tech startup" that doesn't have any of its own code at all, but rather just has its founder manually press buttons on a third-party tool's GUI? Note that I'm not asking whether it's ethical, or even if the service is worth it to a customer (maybe the founder really is good at pressing the right button at the right time) - but would you as a founder fund it, knowing that there's pretty much no barrier-to-entry whatsoever?
- lolinder 2y ago
  > Lines of code is irrelevant. Lines of code is a proxy for "how hard would it be for someone else to do what these guys are doing but better" and the answer here is "not very".
- komali2 2y ago
  I don't know much about this codebase and I am probably one of the dumber people on this site (that's ok, I'm happy and eat well), but take a closer look at some of these commits: https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/bf67ece3532fdc42c8536ab6707d1700a537b5eb https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/bf67ece35... Just dd a promptfrom one object and p it to another. https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/c59d90a4cc55a0b7718b6484c9cb563d99ac83c3 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/c59d90a4c... change a keyboard shortcut lol https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/489004ae02a1aec4fa22a665b2a04629a44275d0 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/489004ae0... manually set font size in 3 places but remove the variable that would still be valid in 2 places??? https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/9bbee4c3d1579988f4851094aace511fd6554f33 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/9bbee4c3d... made an error message longer Now to be fair I've never been paid 270k by coinbase so presumably these guys are a lot smarter than me, but I'm still really confused why they got funded.
  - svnt 2y ago
    Your mistake, the right way to do this is to optimize 100% for the leetcode interview and 0% for how to do a job. You get hired and undercontribute for nine months before putting in notice after you win another interview, which is easier this time because you won one before and got the pedigree. There is a whole generation of people who write solutions to assignments and have no idea how to create software. These commits are what happens when they don’t receive a prompt requiring a from-scratch implementation of a topological sort.
    - timkq 2y ago
      That's on the companies for structuring their interviews like that. Actual technological competence is not measured, only skill in algorithms and data structures, 75% irrelevant for the job..
  - DrammBA 2y ago
    Hilarious that the font PR was meant to "reduce font size" yet he managed to actually increase it.
- nusl 2y ago
  Well, I looked through the work and it's mostly random config/frontend changes. I don't see a lot of meaningful work done? Whether LoC matters or not, it doesn't change that pretty much nothing was changed.

by nusl 2y ago

If that is indeed what got funded, those changes appear to be extremely minimal and benign and I can understand why people would have an issue with funding this.

nojvek 2y ago

Chrome + Electron codebase is a gazillion lines of code. If someone builds an electron app and gets VC funded, is that somehow unethical? Lines of code is irrelevant. Only issue is if they are building on top of a codebase whose license they have violated.

falcor84 2y ago
> Lines of code is irrelevant. Let's take it to the extreme - how much would you fund a "tech startup" that doesn't have any of its own code at all, but rather just has its founder manually press buttons on a third-party tool's GUI? Note that I'm not asking whether it's ethical, or even if the service is worth it to a customer (maybe the founder really is good at pressing the right button at the right time) - but would you as a founder fund it, knowing that there's pretty much no barrier-to-entry whatsoever?
lolinder 2y ago
> Lines of code is irrelevant. Lines of code is a proxy for "how hard would it be for someone else to do what these guys are doing but better" and the answer here is "not very".
komali2 2y ago
I don't know much about this codebase and I am probably one of the dumber people on this site (that's ok, I'm happy and eat well), but take a closer look at some of these commits: https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/bf67ece3532fdc42c8536ab6707d1700a537b5eb https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/bf67ece35... Just dd a promptfrom one object and p it to another. https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/c59d90a4cc55a0b7718b6484c9cb563d99ac83c3 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/c59d90a4c... change a keyboard shortcut lol https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/489004ae02a1aec4fa22a665b2a04629a44275d0 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/489004ae0... manually set font size in 3 places but remove the variable that would still be valid in 2 places??? https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/9bbee4c3d1579988f4851094aace511fd6554f33 https://github.com/trypear/pearai-submodule/commit/9bbee4c3d... made an error message longer Now to be fair I've never been paid 270k by coinbase so presumably these guys are a lot smarter than me, but I'm still really confused why they got funded.
- svnt 2y ago
  Your mistake, the right way to do this is to optimize 100% for the leetcode interview and 0% for how to do a job. You get hired and undercontribute for nine months before putting in notice after you win another interview, which is easier this time because you won one before and got the pedigree. There is a whole generation of people who write solutions to assignments and have no idea how to create software. These commits are what happens when they don’t receive a prompt requiring a from-scratch implementation of a topological sort.
  - timkq 2y ago
    That's on the companies for structuring their interviews like that. Actual technological competence is not measured, only skill in algorithms and data structures, 75% irrelevant for the job..
- DrammBA 2y ago
  Hilarious that the font PR was meant to "reduce font size" yet he managed to actually increase it.
nusl 2y ago
Well, I looked through the work and it's mostly random config/frontend changes. I don't see a lot of meaningful work done? Whether LoC matters or not, it doesn't change that pretty much nothing was changed.