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New Zealand is probably one of the most unlikely nations to harbour WMDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zone http://en.wikipedia.org

New Zealand is probably one of the most unlikely nations to harbour WMDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand%27s_nuclear-free_zo...)

Xylakant 14y ago
Please don't confuse me with facts, I already have an opinion! (I assume the OP refers to the Iraq war which was justified with WMD that never were found)
- tdrgabi 14y ago
  Actually, if I understand the wikipedia link, the nuclear free zone allows nuclear weapons.
  - Negitivefrags 14y ago
    > prohibiting any New Zealand citizen or resident "to manufacture, acquire, possess, or have any control over any nuclear explosive device."
    - obtu 14y ago
      That seems designed to allow NATO enclaves.
      - Gmo 14y ago
        New-Zealand would have to be in the Atlantic Ocean for that ...
      - genbattle 14y ago
        NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation; New Zealand is in the South Pacific. We haven't allowed any naval vessel carrying nuclear material (be it for weapons or power supply) to enter our waters since 1984. It's always been quite a point of contention with the US. It also happens to be a point of pride for the grand majority of Kiwis.
- Piskvorrr 14y ago
  nuclear weapons ⊆ WMDs; "nuclear weapons = WMDs" doesn't follow. (I was being sarcastic with the above comment; I don't actually expect MAFIAA to push for an US invasion into NZ - it's just the next logical upgrade from current situation)
lostlogin 14y ago
I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the current government. It's sad how weak the defense of New Zealand's position is now. Anything to grease the wheels of big money. From this, the audio is worth listening to. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/sound/oxford-union-debate http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/sound/oxford-union-debate
- locusm 14y ago
  +1 Nice find. Pity theres only 2 minutes of it...
locusm 14y ago
Yes, that really didn't go down well with the yanks. There is an interesting WL cable on this topic.

Xylakant 14y ago

Please don't confuse me with facts, I already have an opinion! (I assume the OP refers to the Iraq war which was justified with WMD that never were found)

tdrgabi 14y ago
Actually, if I understand the wikipedia link, the nuclear free zone allows nuclear weapons.
- Negitivefrags 14y ago
  > prohibiting any New Zealand citizen or resident "to manufacture, acquire, possess, or have any control over any nuclear explosive device."
  - obtu 14y ago
    That seems designed to allow NATO enclaves.
    - Gmo 14y ago
      New-Zealand would have to be in the Atlantic Ocean for that ...
    - genbattle 14y ago
      NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation; New Zealand is in the South Pacific. We haven't allowed any naval vessel carrying nuclear material (be it for weapons or power supply) to enter our waters since 1984. It's always been quite a point of contention with the US. It also happens to be a point of pride for the grand majority of Kiwis.
Piskvorrr 14y ago
nuclear weapons ⊆ WMDs; "nuclear weapons = WMDs" doesn't follow. (I was being sarcastic with the above comment; I don't actually expect MAFIAA to push for an US invasion into NZ - it's just the next logical upgrade from current situation)

lostlogin 14y ago

I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the current government. It's sad how weak the defense of New Zealand's position is now. Anything to grease the wheels of big money. From this, the audio is worth listening to. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/sound/oxford-union-debate http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/sound/oxford-union-debate

locusm 14y ago
+1 Nice find. Pity theres only 2 minutes of it...

locusm 14y ago

Yes, that really didn't go down well with the yanks. There is an interesting WL cable on this topic.