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I worked a lot on advertising/marketing related software. And had very similar feelings. Only until I've resolved my main personal psy issues. Since then I do

I worked a lot on advertising/marketing related software. And had very similar feelings. Only until I've resolved my main personal psy issues. Since then I don't care. Job is just a mean to an end. As long as I don't do anything illegal - i'm fine. If I don't like it - I change it to something I like more. I don't give a single duck how others make money or how much they make. Also I know that there are as many assholes hiding behind noble "missiona" as there are among entrepreneurs just trying to make good money. I work as long as it is valuable for me and my goals.

raxxorraxor 2y ago
Of course people are motivated by money but there is are difference on how you can achieve that goal. And in advertising it is mostly on the backs of the most naïve users. In contrast there are people that really improve software and products for everyone and there are countless examples of that.
- aristofun 2y ago
  that is a kinda childish view It's like saying that advertising bad, other cool things - good. Don't you know that if not because of advertising - we wouldn't had Google, amazon and thousands of other great products and companies?
  - CRConrad 2y ago
    > Don't you know that if not because of advertising - we wouldn't had Google, amazon... You say that as if it were necessarily a bad thing. > ...and thousands of other great products and companies? For varying definitions of "great".
  - raxxorraxor 2y ago
    I disagree that this view is childish at all. Advertising itself often has no value, it is about the products and services it might support. And it is a broad field and evaluation of its worth is subjective. I think sponsoring events is a more constructive form of advertising than tracking users wants and pushing popups onto them. These are distinct spheres that can both be titled as advertising but are still very different and not equal. Still, if advertising stopped existing, very little would change. It is often just a pivot that competitors need to engage. Your choice to not care, but that is neither very wise nor a particularly "adult" perspective, although the latter is of course nothing you should strive for.
    - aristofun 2y ago
      Sorry, I'm not gonna comment your nonsensical and naive perspective. Yes, advertising is not something that directly helps cure cancer. But it is nothing but ignorant to downplay important role it plays in the economy. Many people use knives to kill, others make food with them. Yet knives are not even neutral - it is a major and valuable invention of a mankind.
      - CRConrad 2y ago
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      - raxxorraxor 2y ago
        It only plays a role for product discovery, which is almost trivial in todays information infrastructure. It remains a bottle for attention but the amplitude of advertising is almost irrelevant. If we had less advertising tomorrow, no pop-ups, no billboards, no flyers and so on, very little would directly change and consumption would barely be affected. And as I hinted at, there are of course different levels of advertising. If it consumes private information of its targets, it becomes a net loss for society and economy. More or less the reality that OP doesn't want to be part of anymore and I believe it is for good reason and I wish him luck. That doesn't mean I don't like our advertising department or believe it is superfluous.

raxxorraxor 2y ago

Of course people are motivated by money but there is are difference on how you can achieve that goal. And in advertising it is mostly on the backs of the most naïve users. In contrast there are people that really improve software and products for everyone and there are countless examples of that.

aristofun 2y ago
that is a kinda childish view It's like saying that advertising bad, other cool things - good. Don't you know that if not because of advertising - we wouldn't had Google, amazon and thousands of other great products and companies?
- CRConrad 2y ago
  > Don't you know that if not because of advertising - we wouldn't had Google, amazon... You say that as if it were necessarily a bad thing. > ...and thousands of other great products and companies? For varying definitions of "great".
- raxxorraxor 2y ago
  I disagree that this view is childish at all. Advertising itself often has no value, it is about the products and services it might support. And it is a broad field and evaluation of its worth is subjective. I think sponsoring events is a more constructive form of advertising than tracking users wants and pushing popups onto them. These are distinct spheres that can both be titled as advertising but are still very different and not equal. Still, if advertising stopped existing, very little would change. It is often just a pivot that competitors need to engage. Your choice to not care, but that is neither very wise nor a particularly "adult" perspective, although the latter is of course nothing you should strive for.
  - aristofun 2y ago
    Sorry, I'm not gonna comment your nonsensical and naive perspective. Yes, advertising is not something that directly helps cure cancer. But it is nothing but ignorant to downplay important role it plays in the economy. Many people use knives to kill, others make food with them. Yet knives are not even neutral - it is a major and valuable invention of a mankind.
    - CRConrad 2y ago
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    - raxxorraxor 2y ago
      It only plays a role for product discovery, which is almost trivial in todays information infrastructure. It remains a bottle for attention but the amplitude of advertising is almost irrelevant. If we had less advertising tomorrow, no pop-ups, no billboards, no flyers and so on, very little would directly change and consumption would barely be affected. And as I hinted at, there are of course different levels of advertising. If it consumes private information of its targets, it becomes a net loss for society and economy. More or less the reality that OP doesn't want to be part of anymore and I believe it is for good reason and I wish him luck. That doesn't mean I don't like our advertising department or believe it is superfluous.