Need evidence for that, afair this is a highly debated point right now, so no room for "obviously". PS: Plus, most reasoning/planning examples coming from LLM

Need evidence for that, afair this is a highly debated point right now, so no room for "obviously". PS: Plus, most reasoning/planning examples coming from LLM based systems rely in bandaids that work around said LLMs (rlhf'd CoT, LLM-Modulo, Logic-of-Thought, etc) to the point they're being differentiated by the name LRMs: Large Reasoning Models. So much for modelling the world via language just using LLMs.