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Or spotify jamming a song into everyone's algorithms, as a cynical take. I have never looked up and played Drake or Taylor Swift, but they come up in "curated"

Or spotify jamming a song into everyone's algorithms, as a cynical take. I have never looked up and played Drake or Taylor Swift, but they come up in "curated" playlists thought-provokingly often.

t-3 2y ago
> I have never looked up and played Drake or Taylor Swift, but they come up in "curated" playlists thought-provokingly often. That's not necessarily due to payola or whatever - both Drake and Swift are very talented as well as prolific and among the best operating these days, even if they are pop artists. It's not strange to see them recommended algorithmically if the listener is into modern music at all.
- saghm 2y ago
  I almost exclusively listen to music from before the 90s, and Spotify has never once tried to play me anything from either of those artists, so that seems like a more likely explanation to me.
- otteromkram 2y ago
  > both Drake and Swift are very talented Weird way to say "nepo kids." There's 1,000,000+ Taylor Swifts and Drakes out there; connections and money are the true talent brokers.
  - t-3 2y ago
    That's pretty unfair. Drake's writing abilities are questionable, but his ability as an performer is undeniable. Swift is well known for both writing and performing and her popularity speaks to her skill and many years of effort. Were they helped by having wealthy parents and breaking into the industry young? Certainly. Is that the whole story? Definitely not.
    - lobsterthief 2y ago
      Btw, this is just your opinion because I honestly don’t think either of them are very good. It’s not even the genre of music I prefer to listen to. Just wanted to point out that everyone has different tastes and your stating as fact that they’re both talented is as valid as me stating as a fact that they’re both untalented.
      - t-3 2y ago
        I don't normally listen to them or like their music either - but I can still recognize objectively that they have talent. It's not a matter of taste, just recognition of the obvious fact that being an extremely popular artist means that you're talented, no matter what pretentious haters say about it.
        lobsterthief 2y ago
        Popularity !== talent. Think of _every_ popular actor or artist. Do you think every one of them is talented? If so, it sounds like you’re basing your understanding of talent on what other people think.
        t-3 2y ago
        There's absolutely no way an untalented person would be so hugely popular over such a long period of time. I think people tend to dismiss the popular with elitist narratives about how the commoners can never understand real art far too often. It's simply arrogance and refusal to accept reality to deny them. Not every talented person succeeds, but every person that succeeds must have talent. Luck and backing aren't enough to make art massively popular.

Or spotify jamming a song into everyone's algorithms, as a cynical take. I have never looked up and played Drake or Taylor Swift, but they come up in "curated" playlists thought-provokingly often.

t-3 2y ago

> I have never looked up and played Drake or Taylor Swift, but they come up in "curated" playlists thought-provokingly often. That's not necessarily due to payola or whatever - both Drake and Swift are very talented as well as prolific and among the best operating these days, even if they are pop artists. It's not strange to see them recommended algorithmically if the listener is into modern music at all.

saghm 2y ago
I almost exclusively listen to music from before the 90s, and Spotify has never once tried to play me anything from either of those artists, so that seems like a more likely explanation to me.
otteromkram 2y ago
> both Drake and Swift are very talented Weird way to say "nepo kids." There's 1,000,000+ Taylor Swifts and Drakes out there; connections and money are the true talent brokers.
- t-3 2y ago
  That's pretty unfair. Drake's writing abilities are questionable, but his ability as an performer is undeniable. Swift is well known for both writing and performing and her popularity speaks to her skill and many years of effort. Were they helped by having wealthy parents and breaking into the industry young? Certainly. Is that the whole story? Definitely not.
  - lobsterthief 2y ago
    Btw, this is just your opinion because I honestly don’t think either of them are very good. It’s not even the genre of music I prefer to listen to. Just wanted to point out that everyone has different tastes and your stating as fact that they’re both talented is as valid as me stating as a fact that they’re both untalented.
    - t-3 2y ago
      I don't normally listen to them or like their music either - but I can still recognize objectively that they have talent. It's not a matter of taste, just recognition of the obvious fact that being an extremely popular artist means that you're talented, no matter what pretentious haters say about it.
      - lobsterthief 2y ago
        Popularity !== talent. Think of _every_ popular actor or artist. Do you think every one of them is talented? If so, it sounds like you’re basing your understanding of talent on what other people think.
        t-3 2y ago
        There's absolutely no way an untalented person would be so hugely popular over such a long period of time. I think people tend to dismiss the popular with elitist narratives about how the commoners can never understand real art far too often. It's simply arrogance and refusal to accept reality to deny them. Not every talented person succeeds, but every person that succeeds must have talent. Luck and backing aren't enough to make art massively popular.