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Redot Engine: A Fork of the Godot Engine
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- r0n22 2y agoWhat is the reasoning behind the fork?
- okkdev 2y agoGodot expressed support for LGBTQ+, so the alt-right had to fork their own.
- big-green-man 2y agoThat's a disingenuous take. Godot is blocking devs on github, preventing them from getting updates for their projects, because of ideological disagreement.
- vfclists 2y agoEvidence?
- big-green-man 2y agohttps://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m https://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m Also see the conversations involving that individual today.
- srid 2y agoTo readers without access to X, https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/godot-engine-user-blocking-controversy-wokot https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/godot-engine-user-bloc...
- ActionHank 2y agoOnly reports I’ve seen mention being blocked in twitter. If that’s a thing you care about that deeply you probably should be blocked.
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- big-green-man 2y agoIf what's a thing you care about deeply?
- archagon 2y agoWhat does it mean to “block” developers from accessing an open source repo? I can go to https://github.com/godotengine/godot https://github.com/godotengine/godot and clone it without even making an account. A total tempest in a teapot.
- big-green-man 2y agoIt means this https://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m https://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m
- archagon 2y agoIf someone's knowledge of software licenses and distributed version control is so limited that they can't figure out a way to bypass this "block," then I'm not sure they're cut out for the rigors of video game development.
- big-green-man 2y agoThat's beside the point.
- archagon 2y agoYou said that "Godot is blocking devs on github, preventing them from getting updates for their projects." In fact, no devs are blocked from getting updates for their projects.
- ultra_chad 2y agoThey are, in fact.
- dminik 2y agoThey in fact aren't. First, getting blocked on GitHub doesn't remove your access to the repository. You can still see and fork the code. You just can't comment in issues and discussions. Second, no actual developer of Godot has been blocked. Random people harassing the contributors have been blocked.
- okkdev 2y agoIt's not an exhaustive take, but what it boils down to. Also the Github blocking is false and has been disproven.
- whoknowsidont 2y ago>Godot is blocking devs on github, preventing them from getting updates for their projects No, that's not how any of this works. But nice try.
- ultra_chad 2y agoEverything he said is correct, of course. But nice try.
- blashyrk 2y agoWay to disengenously misrepresent what happened, which in of itself is truly a staple of certain kind of online activism. Bra-vo!
- okkdev 2y agoI beg to differ.
- 0x_rs 2y agoVerifiably false. Godot's new community manager chimed in a mongolian horse-rider simulator discussion [0] that had nothing to do with it (but UE5), claimed the engine to have become "wokot" and immediately proceeded to block every single account expressing any criticism from questioning stirring useless drama online to fixing the engine, quoting its founder, or having never interacted with the account at all, and then proceeded to thoroughly lie in their official statement. The project has always been leaning into supporting such communities, and that was never an issue for the majority of people at large until this pointless tantrum that ultimately just brought worldwide attention to its community management issues. 0. https://x.com/godotengine/status/1839795089121403320 https://x.com/godotengine/status/1839795089121403320
- pachorizons 2y agoIt might have been useful to include the Godot Foundation's statement on the issue, as it directly acknowledges this. https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/comments/1fsvcdg/from_the_godot_foundation_board/ https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/comments/1fsvcdg/from_the_god...
- johnnyanmac 2y agooi. Crazy how I really haven't checked much into Godot's community since early pandemic but the exact same names always come up causing drama. So the official Godot twitter fell for the lowest quality troll bait to start a flame war, and in the crossfire they banned several people who were in fact not harassing staff. On top of that, a particular unoffical discord moderator fanned the flames, causing a fallout of some devs, and then others in the crossfire. The CEO basically dug his head in the sand for all this. Did I get that right? You'd think a proper CM would know that those "callouts" rarely end well. Especially on Twitter. More reasons companies won't be open about their creative works and instead live in an ivory tower. To be frank this is all a bit stupid and disappointing. I knew for a while that Godot's contributions can be overly hardheaded and blocked a lot of useful optimizations, so I was expecting this fork to be more of a call to have the engine focus more on iterating faster and being more performant. But alas, Twitter continues to unjustify its own existence.
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- Tomte 2y agoThese revenge forks never live long. This one didn‘t even manage to delete Godot from the readme and insert its own name.
- big-green-man 2y agoWell I'd usually agree, this isn't really a revenge fork. Many Godot contributors are now simply blocked from putting in pull requests, opening issues and things like that. They have no way to contribute, but they do to this fork, so I expect that those people will continue to do so.
- despera 2y agoDo you have a proof for that?
- big-green-man 2y agohttps://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m https://x.com/anthonywaldz/status/1840345290228047911#m Several contributors cannot work on Godot anymore, hence the fork.
- blensor 2y agoAccording to Akien, at the time that fork was created the total number of blocked users on github was 3, as of this morning the total number of blocked users on github has increased to 5. So that doesn't really seem to be the reason why that fork was created. Maybe it's someone who was unhappy with the development in general and this was the reason to pull the trigger but overall this does look a bit off.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoNo public members and there's a total of one PR merged in that's just as bizarre as this entire situation. But apparently the redot discord server is buzzing and this already has 1500 stars. More than I'd expect for a pure revenge server. Who knows what's going on at this point?
- vfclists 2y agoIt doesn't have a functioning website or even a statement explaining the reason for the fork. Why the reason for the fork? How many forks of Godot exist?
- maxlin 2y agoGiven contributors have been blocked access to the actual Godot repo, part why this is going fork first, explanations later might just be to not block work
- WolfeReader 2y agoYou forgot to mention the number of contributors who have been blocked. (It's five.)
- maxlin 2y agoThat's like saying only 5 devs were shot, there's tens of thousands left. The behavior of the Godot Foundation is so out of touch with the community and the general idea of trying to provide a product/service that is not politically aligned by its base idea, and whose audience is politically diverse and don't expect Godot to engage with polarizing acts. I've literally never seen a Discord blow up and grow as fast as this one.
- blashyrk 2y agoMissed opportunity to name it Bigot (pronounced "Big-oh")
- ultra_chad 2y agoNo one who works on it is bigoted, so that would be nonsensical.
- DonHopkins 2y agoRacist cheerleaders like you who don't actually do any work are bigoted.
- anonfordays 2y agoWhere is the proof these people are "racist cheerleaders?" If someone called you an anti-White, misandrist, child groomer, etc., you'd demand them to back up the claims with sources.
- O5Council 2y agoHow is it bigoted? Tech is meritocratic, hence that token is invalid.
- hitekker 2y agoFor context: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/godot-engine-user-blocking-controversy-wokot https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/godot-engine-user-bloc...