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> Also, ditch the old-timey film-camera look. I don't need 15 physical switches, most of which should be automatic anyway. Yeah, you do. For the reasons others

> Also, ditch the old-timey film-camera look. I don't need 15 physical switches, most of which should be automatic anyway. Yeah, you do. For the reasons others have given (adjusting the exposure compensation on my iPhone is a PITA. On my Olympus I just spin a dial). But also: if you're "out shooting", this may happen when it's freezing outside. If you've found a pair of warm gloves that allows you to comfortably use an iPhone, I'd love to hear about them. My Olympus' dials are usable with my winter motorcycle gloves. My iPhone's screen is also a pain to use if it's wet. Sure, it won't brick the phone, but dragging things around the screen? Good luck.

cyberax 2y ago
> Yeah, you do. For the reasons others have given (adjusting the exposure compensation on my iPhone is a PITA. On my Olympus I just spin a dial). No, I don't. I haven't touched most of controls on my camera, and I don't have a desire to do that. > But also: if you're "out shooting", this may happen when it's freezing outside. Yeah, so every feature must be designed to work under water, at night, at -60C, on Jupiter. Here's a newsflash: people typically don't take pictures when it's super-cold.
- vladvasiliu 2y ago
  Indeed. It's almost as if there were multiple uses for a given piece of technology. > Here's a newsflash: people typically don't take pictures when it's super-cold. Here's a newsflash: most of these people don't care for "real cameras" and are buying phones instead. The no-dial fully-automatic cameras are pretty much extinct because people find phones good enough for their needs. I don't follow the camera news that closely, but I'm pretty sure at least Olympus and Panasonic have some models with few buttons. I don't know if they have integrated GPS (probably not), but apart from that, they sound like what you want. Those are smaller sensor cameras (but still big enough to be in a totally different league than phones). I think Panasonic recently came out with a "full-frame" compact with close to no dials. Sony has a compact full-frame, but it does have dials and buttons. Either way, if you're willing to put up with lugging around a big-ass camera and a heavy lens, it's not clear to me what's the issue of there being 2-3 more buttons and dials. Just don't use them. Aside from the on-off button on my camera which is a braindead design, I never unintentionally bump dials or switches and there are a bunch of them on a tiny camera.

cyberax 2y ago

> Yeah, you do. For the reasons others have given (adjusting the exposure compensation on my iPhone is a PITA. On my Olympus I just spin a dial). No, I don't. I haven't touched most of controls on my camera, and I don't have a desire to do that. > But also: if you're "out shooting", this may happen when it's freezing outside. Yeah, so every feature must be designed to work under water, at night, at -60C, on Jupiter. Here's a newsflash: people typically don't take pictures when it's super-cold.

vladvasiliu 2y ago
Indeed. It's almost as if there were multiple uses for a given piece of technology. > Here's a newsflash: people typically don't take pictures when it's super-cold. Here's a newsflash: most of these people don't care for "real cameras" and are buying phones instead. The no-dial fully-automatic cameras are pretty much extinct because people find phones good enough for their needs. I don't follow the camera news that closely, but I'm pretty sure at least Olympus and Panasonic have some models with few buttons. I don't know if they have integrated GPS (probably not), but apart from that, they sound like what you want. Those are smaller sensor cameras (but still big enough to be in a totally different league than phones). I think Panasonic recently came out with a "full-frame" compact with close to no dials. Sony has a compact full-frame, but it does have dials and buttons. Either way, if you're willing to put up with lugging around a big-ass camera and a heavy lens, it's not clear to me what's the issue of there being 2-3 more buttons and dials. Just don't use them. Aside from the on-off button on my camera which is a braindead design, I never unintentionally bump dials or switches and there are a bunch of them on a tiny camera.