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This is such a wild take. I’m constantly running into issues with bundler and literally never have issues with npm or yarn. Not to mention the amount of innovat

• ryanbrunner 2y ago
  Do you mind sharing some details? This doesn't match my experiences at all really - while I think running into messes with NPM is sometimes a little overstated, the number of times I've needed to do something drastic like `rm -rf node_modules` is not insignificant and I've never had to do anything at all like that with Bundler. The only problem I can really think of is working through issues when two gems require different irreconcilable versions of a library, and that's more of a fundamental ruby issue / design choice than a problem with bundler itself.
  • qudat 2y ago
    The biggest issue was with using older versions of ruby or older versions of the bundler itself. We had to pin our bundler to a specific version and it caused all sorts of issues when installing gems.
    • hosh 2y ago
      I have had to use older versions of npm on unsupported nodejs. There was no pinning, or guard rails with upgrading. I have borked the entire npm install doing that because the later npm wanted to use newer syntax that was not backwards compatible. What you and I describe is not a bundler or npm problem so much that the software we are working on requires an outdated version of ruby and nodejs. I agree with the the other comment though — npm has more problems even when with the latest version. Like Nodejs, it is flawed by design.