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>because historically that has been a guaranteed path to obsolescence Has it? If there's one good thing about Microsoft, it's that basically anything, even fro

>because historically that has been a guaranteed path to obsolescence Has it? If there's one good thing about Microsoft, it's that basically anything, even from the stone age, is still supported. You can fire up some executable from the 1990s on Windows and it works and you can probably just be a .net dev for the next 50 years if you want to. If there's one company in this industry that takes long term support and backwards compatibility seriously it's Microsoft

0dayz 2y ago
You're talking about the most broadest of broad experiences here, what about all the proprietary dev products that have been sunset which usually was design to keep in said developer in the walled garden?
- wvenable 2y ago
  Nobody used them -- except maybe for Silverlight -- but we all know why that model (along with Flash) was retired.
- Mashimo 2y ago
  I honestly don't know, but what are those?
  - 0dayz 2y ago
    Pretty much anything pre-Edge in the web world, I'm sure there are some deprecated Sharepoint predecessor and similar.
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kragen 2y ago
tell me more about how valuable my knowledge of mfc and visual basic 5 is now i mean, yes, the code still runs. but it's not useful
- SleepyMyroslav 2y ago
  while I like your point in general you might be wrong on MFC part at least a bit. Last time I checked one can still choose optional MFC component of desktop development in vs installer and it will let you build old code with latest toolchain and do maintenance. Not that it makes any sense in 2024 but its still there. ps. I've been hitting F5 every working day in vs for entire career and have no plans to switch to anything else =)
  - kragen 2y ago
    haha https://github.com/kragen/kragen-.emacs.d/blob/master/init.el#L197 https://github.com/kragen/kragen-.emacs.d/blob/master/init.e... agreed
iLemming 2y ago
> takes long term support and backwards compatibility seriously it's Microsoft Silverlight, Internet Explorer, Windows Phone, Microsoft Edge (Legacy), Windows Media Center, Microsoft Expression, Hotmail, MSN Messenger, Zune, Kinect, Cortana (on mobile devices), Groove Music, Windows Mobile, FrontPage, ActiveX, Visual Basic 6, Windows XP, Windows 7, Skype for Business (being replaced by Teams), Office Picture Manager, DCOM, Winforms (considered legacy), .NET Remoting (superseded by WCF), WCF itself now considered largely obsolete, Classic ASP.NET (Web Forms), etc. While Microsoft does offer LTS for core products, they also regularly obsolete technologies, often driven by market changes or strategic shifts. Their rate of obsolescence is comparable to other major tech companies.

0dayz 2y ago

You're talking about the most broadest of broad experiences here, what about all the proprietary dev products that have been sunset which usually was design to keep in said developer in the walled garden?

wvenable 2y ago
Nobody used them -- except maybe for Silverlight -- but we all know why that model (along with Flash) was retired.
Mashimo 2y ago
I honestly don't know, but what are those?
- 0dayz 2y ago
  Pretty much anything pre-Edge in the web world, I'm sure there are some deprecated Sharepoint predecessor and similar.
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kragen 2y ago

tell me more about how valuable my knowledge of mfc and visual basic 5 is now i mean, yes, the code still runs. but it's not useful

SleepyMyroslav 2y ago
while I like your point in general you might be wrong on MFC part at least a bit. Last time I checked one can still choose optional MFC component of desktop development in vs installer and it will let you build old code with latest toolchain and do maintenance. Not that it makes any sense in 2024 but its still there. ps. I've been hitting F5 every working day in vs for entire career and have no plans to switch to anything else =)
- kragen 2y ago
  haha https://github.com/kragen/kragen-.emacs.d/blob/master/init.el#L197 https://github.com/kragen/kragen-.emacs.d/blob/master/init.e... agreed

iLemming 2y ago

> takes long term support and backwards compatibility seriously it's Microsoft Silverlight, Internet Explorer, Windows Phone, Microsoft Edge (Legacy), Windows Media Center, Microsoft Expression, Hotmail, MSN Messenger, Zune, Kinect, Cortana (on mobile devices), Groove Music, Windows Mobile, FrontPage, ActiveX, Visual Basic 6, Windows XP, Windows 7, Skype for Business (being replaced by Teams), Office Picture Manager, DCOM, Winforms (considered legacy), .NET Remoting (superseded by WCF), WCF itself now considered largely obsolete, Classic ASP.NET (Web Forms), etc. While Microsoft does offer LTS for core products, they also regularly obsolete technologies, often driven by market changes or strategic shifts. Their rate of obsolescence is comparable to other major tech companies.