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The subtle rebranding of Democratic party to democrat party is a pretty strong tell for highly partisan perspective. How does California compare with similarly

The subtle rebranding of Democratic party to democrat party is a pretty strong tell for highly partisan perspective. How does California compare with similarly large Republican-dominated states? Anecdotally, I’ve seen a lot of really bad legislation originating from any legislature that has no meaningful opposition.

anigbrowl 2y ago
It's such a long-running thing that it's hard to gauge whether it's deliberate or just loose usage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  It's rather decidedly a dog whistle presently.
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- jimmygrapes 2y ago
  The party isn't doing much lately to encourage the actual democracy part of the name, other than whining about national popular vote every 4 years knowing full well that's now how that process works.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    The Democratic Party has some warts, this is for sure, and they have a lot they could be doing to improve participation and input from the rank-and-file. However, attempting to subvert an election by any means possible is not yet one of those warts. This is emphatically not a case where "both sides suck equally."
    - stufffer 2y ago
      >subvert an election by any means possible is not yet one of those warts The Democrats are famous for trying to have 3rd party candidates stripped from ballots. Straining smaller campaigns under the cost of fighting off endless lawsuits. Democrats invented the term lawfare.
      - rootusrootus 2y ago
        You think the Republicans don't do similar things? Republicans blazed a new trail in 2021, trying to actually change the outcome of an election in progress through force. This is not comparable to using legal processes. A better comparison might be the series of lawsuits the Republican Party attempted after force did not work. How many years until the guy who lost admitted that he lost? These actions strike at the very foundations of democracy. A non-trivial segment of citizens still think the election was somehow stolen from them, despite an utter lack of anything like evidence. We will be feeling reverberations from these actions for decades.
  - dangus 2y ago
    Whining about the national popular vote every 4 years is literally an encouragement of increased actual democracy. Scrapping the electoral college would be one of the most lower case d democratic things this country could do. “Whining” is all you can do when you don’t have the statehouse votes to pass an constitutional amendment.
Lonestar1440 2y ago
I'm a pretty pedantic person, but even I just use one or the other at random. I don't think it's a good idea to read into things like this.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  I will allow that there are going to be some innocent mixups. But the 'democrat party' epithet dates back almost a century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) If you care about the perception of what you write, this is one of those things that will quickly steer your audience one way or the other. It has become so consistent that I would personally try not to get it wrong lest it distract from the point I'm trying to express.
  - Lonestar1440 2y ago
    I didn't write "Democrat Party", I wrote "Democrat-Dominated". I am a registered Democrat. The broader partisan group I belong to are "Democrats" even if the organization formally calls itself the "Democratic party".

anigbrowl 2y ago

It's such a long-running thing that it's hard to gauge whether it's deliberate or just loose usage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

dredmorbius 2y ago
It's rather decidedly a dog whistle presently.
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jimmygrapes 2y ago
The party isn't doing much lately to encourage the actual democracy part of the name, other than whining about national popular vote every 4 years knowing full well that's now how that process works.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  The Democratic Party has some warts, this is for sure, and they have a lot they could be doing to improve participation and input from the rank-and-file. However, attempting to subvert an election by any means possible is not yet one of those warts. This is emphatically not a case where "both sides suck equally."
  - stufffer 2y ago
    >subvert an election by any means possible is not yet one of those warts The Democrats are famous for trying to have 3rd party candidates stripped from ballots. Straining smaller campaigns under the cost of fighting off endless lawsuits. Democrats invented the term lawfare.
    - rootusrootus 2y ago
      You think the Republicans don't do similar things? Republicans blazed a new trail in 2021, trying to actually change the outcome of an election in progress through force. This is not comparable to using legal processes. A better comparison might be the series of lawsuits the Republican Party attempted after force did not work. How many years until the guy who lost admitted that he lost? These actions strike at the very foundations of democracy. A non-trivial segment of citizens still think the election was somehow stolen from them, despite an utter lack of anything like evidence. We will be feeling reverberations from these actions for decades.
- dangus 2y ago
  Whining about the national popular vote every 4 years is literally an encouragement of increased actual democracy. Scrapping the electoral college would be one of the most lower case d democratic things this country could do. “Whining” is all you can do when you don’t have the statehouse votes to pass an constitutional amendment.

Lonestar1440 2y ago

I'm a pretty pedantic person, but even I just use one or the other at random. I don't think it's a good idea to read into things like this.

rootusrootus 2y ago
I will allow that there are going to be some innocent mixups. But the 'democrat party' epithet dates back almost a century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) If you care about the perception of what you write, this is one of those things that will quickly steer your audience one way or the other. It has become so consistent that I would personally try not to get it wrong lest it distract from the point I'm trying to express.
- Lonestar1440 2y ago
  I didn't write "Democrat Party", I wrote "Democrat-Dominated". I am a registered Democrat. The broader partisan group I belong to are "Democrats" even if the organization formally calls itself the "Democratic party".