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Many have definitely been motivated by the wish to share information. But there also wasn't much of an alternative. If you wanted to actively learn something, g
by orcim 2y ago
Many have definitely been motivated by the wish to share information. But there also wasn't much of an alternative. If you wanted to actively learn something, get someone else to use it, or get them to share what they knew, you almost had to interact with others. Which doesn't mean there wasn't a genuine want to help others. But it was also wanting what you shared to become better. Something that was a direct consequence of many of us having experienced a scarcity of computers, software, and information. And then experiencing network effects.
That still exists in some ways. But much of the Internet is very much being gatekept. Including YouTube, Wikipedia, GitHub, Reddit, and Hacker News. There is almost no point in posting things publicly anymore because not only is the average user not genuinely interested, but they are genuinely not interested. That is why kids grow up with TikTok. Because it is one of the few platforms where you can post on almost the same terms as you consume. And thereby experience those network effects.
I've ended up enough times on the Raspberry Pi forum to understand why anyone young today would not want to go into computer science or electrical engineering.
- kragen 2y agoi mean, you could totally solve a problem yourself and not write it up. i did that lots of times too! it'll be interesting to see what happens with llms and things like stack exchange
- night862 2y agoWell, it isn’t great. Computers are logic, and LLM tools are not really able to derive logic from language. Is there is enough logic q&a yeah they manage to produce something like what people talk about. My experience with this has been terrible, I find them useless.
- kragen 2y agomonsieur, what good is a new-born baby?
- rockskon 2y agoLLMs are not intellence. They are not AGI. They do not have the reasoning skills of a baby. This is not something they will "grow into". No amount of additional training data in the world will turn LLMs into AGI. Any argument to the contrary is pure, 100% copium to justify the hundreds of billions of dollars industry has poured into this technology.
- night862 2y agoIf and when you try to derive logic from the statistical model that is an LLM, you will face the same problem that Bertrand Russel did. Good luck.
- pjc50 2y agoLLMs kill stackexchange and all of the wonderful gift economy, because they replace humans in the loop with uncanny humanoids with whom it is impossible by their nature to have a real connection. I think the next generation of popular counterculture service is going to be one which goes to extreme lengths to verify that the participants are authentic humans.
- PedroBatista 2y agoSo Blade Runner is a documentary of the future? Starting in the Internet first then IRL. I joke but this is already has been happening for many years: email verification, captcha, pics with a customized message.. just like “AI” was present in 90s digital cameras.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago>i mean, you could totally solve a problem yourself and not write it up. i did that lots of times too! sure. that's how we shifted to a hustle culture. launch something useful, get fanbase, and then think of writing it up for marketing purposes. but obviously the dynamic here isn't necessarily a community of like minded people sharing info. But more of a semi-captive audience interested in seeing more of the product.
- kragen 2y agono, i mean, for example, i got gnu patch to compile and work on windows nt 3.51 under cygwin, but i never made the additional effort to send the necessary diffs to paul eggert so that, if he wanted to integrate them, nobody else would have to do the same thing