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The west needs to get over nimbyism and build infrastructure again. It's frankly embarrassing how much the west has crippled itself and then exported manufactur

The west needs to get over nimbyism and build infrastructure again. It's frankly embarrassing how much the west has crippled itself and then exported manufacturing to counties with much less regulation.

wpm 2y ago
It's an easy thought to have. I live in one of the US's larger metro areas in a leafy, former streetcar suburb then annexed, neighborhood. Near me, just down the street, is an old industrial plot that supplies materials and tools for other industrial uses. Their trucks are large. Their lots are small. Each day is a dance of large flatbeds loading up for the next day, moving in and out of the lots, and other customers and their large flatbeds coming to stock up. Many leave by driving down the street in front of my house. Is it annoying? Yes. Their trucks are heavy enough to shake the house when they go over a bump. They are loud as hell too. [1] Do I want to shut the company down? Of course not. They are my neighbors, for better or for worse. I have to try to make the relationship work. They employ dozens of people and make it so other companies can build things easier in my city. The instinct, however, is to think "I wish they would f** off with their big dumb trucks and their blocking traffic and their dangerous blahblahblah. I'm fine with industrial supply companies, but not in my backyard!". It takes an effort to stop yourself and remember to recognize their value. I could lose my job tomorrow, and maybe walk down the street and ask them if they need another set of hands moving gas cylinders around. I might one day need their services, or need the services of someone who needs theirs. 1. I wish the federal government would regulate the amount of noise pollution coming off some of these vehicles, yes, but that isn't a local issue.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  People who are very sensitive to noise should not live in cities, which are, in fact, noisy places. If you want to live in the countryside, move to the countryside. Shutting down cities and moving all manufacturing to Muslims slaves in China is not a reasonable response to some few people in cities not being able to come to terms with what a city is. And it's not clear to me at all why you want people who do not live in your city to force the people in the city to adopt rules they don't want.
  - wpm 2y ago
    Damn it sounds like you should read my comment a bit more carefully because you don’t seem to have understood it fully.

wpm 2y ago

It's an easy thought to have. I live in one of the US's larger metro areas in a leafy, former streetcar suburb then annexed, neighborhood. Near me, just down the street, is an old industrial plot that supplies materials and tools for other industrial uses. Their trucks are large. Their lots are small. Each day is a dance of large flatbeds loading up for the next day, moving in and out of the lots, and other customers and their large flatbeds coming to stock up. Many leave by driving down the street in front of my house. Is it annoying? Yes. Their trucks are heavy enough to shake the house when they go over a bump. They are loud as hell too. [1] Do I want to shut the company down? Of course not. They are my neighbors, for better or for worse. I have to try to make the relationship work. They employ dozens of people and make it so other companies can build things easier in my city. The instinct, however, is to think "I wish they would f** off with their big dumb trucks and their blocking traffic and their dangerous blahblahblah. I'm fine with industrial supply companies, but not in my backyard!". It takes an effort to stop yourself and remember to recognize their value. I could lose my job tomorrow, and maybe walk down the street and ask them if they need another set of hands moving gas cylinders around. I might one day need their services, or need the services of someone who needs theirs. 1. I wish the federal government would regulate the amount of noise pollution coming off some of these vehicles, yes, but that isn't a local issue.

flanked-evergl 2y ago
People who are very sensitive to noise should not live in cities, which are, in fact, noisy places. If you want to live in the countryside, move to the countryside. Shutting down cities and moving all manufacturing to Muslims slaves in China is not a reasonable response to some few people in cities not being able to come to terms with what a city is. And it's not clear to me at all why you want people who do not live in your city to force the people in the city to adopt rules they don't want.
- wpm 2y ago
  Damn it sounds like you should read my comment a bit more carefully because you don’t seem to have understood it fully.