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I had to stop using it after loads of conflict files piled up over the years in my notes folder. I'm trying to switch to WebDAV for notes. Considering Caddy+We

I had to stop using it after loads of conflict files piled up over the years in my notes folder. I'm trying to switch to WebDAV for notes. Considering Caddy+WebDAV[0] or Peergos[1] or SeaweedFS[2], but not Next/OwnCloud. Is still consider using Syncthing for other files types. [0] https://whhone.com/posts/webdav-syncthing/ https://whhone.com/posts/webdav-syncthing/ [1] https://github.com/search?q=repo%3APeergos%2FPeergos%20webdav&type=code https://github.com/search?q=repo%3APeergos%2FPeergos%20webda... [2] https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs/blob/master/weed/command/webdav.go https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs/blob/master/weed/comm...

Filligree 2y ago
I've had to reset it multiple times due to the same sort of issue. There doesn't seem to be a good way to resolve conflicts; at least, none that reliably works.
- generalizations 2y ago
  You have to ensure there's continuity - at least something online and connected at all times, to ensure that the system can know and have distributed the latest version of the files. I just have it running on my desktop, and at this point, the system's been running for nearly 6 years, and the file conflicts are rare. They only happen when I e.g. do edits on my laptop offline, then go home and do more edits on my desktop before letting my laptop sync.
LeoPanthera 2y ago
Conflict files are good. It means you changed the same file in multiple locations and Syncthing didn't overwrite or delete any of them. Much like forest fires, only you can prevent conflict files.
- KennyBlanken 2y ago
  Nah. They're not alone. For me, syncthing would just randomly decide an updated file conflicted; I had two computers and a smartphone and was pretty careful about this stuff. It was its only fault - but it was easier to figure out what the actual most-current file was. Nextcloud does the same thing occasionally, and it's not intuitive at all trying to figure out which one is the proper one to keep.
  - ta988 2y ago
    There was a bug in the android client a while back that was causing that it is much better now.
baby_souffle 2y ago
> I had to stop using it after loads of conflict files piled up over the years in my notes folder. SyncThing is still still _loads_ better than Next/Own-Cloud unless you also need the extra baggage those two bring. Having said that, "conflict-sync" files are my current issue. I have several devices that sync to a local central device and a remote central device and I'm struggling to determine if the "conflicts" that are _not_ conflicts are because of this "dual-honed" approach or not.
soupbowl 2y ago
I had similar issues years ago and it was frustrating. What I do now is have syncthing on a 'server' that is always on and everything syncs to the server and not between each device. That reduced my conflicts by 99%. Another issue I had was accidentally deleting a folder and having it deleted off of all my devices. To solve that issue I have my server do ZFS snapshots on my syncthing folder, which makes for easy recovery. With those 2 things being done, I can't say enough good things about syncthing. Compared to nextcloud it is almost maintenance free.
- EGreg 2y ago
  Why not just use rsync -a periodically over an encrypted ssh connection? It works across Mac/Linux etc. and is just as efficient, no? If you really want to be fancy, you can deploy a script to watch files for changes and do rsync immediately when it happene.
  - dmd 2y ago
    You can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.
    - EGreg 2y ago
      Not sure why this would be easier or better FTP is not encrypted. Unless you use SFTP maybe. (I wrote an SFTP and FTP-over-SSH client in Visual Basic like 20 yesrs ago lol). And even then, you miss out on all the optimizations with prolly trees and other goodness that rsync has. No, sorry, that solution sucks. CVS? That’s super outdated.
      - fallingsquirrel 2y ago
        It's a reference to the infamous dropbox comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Anyways, if you're at the grocery store and you need to see your shopping list, and you're happy with your current workflow of opening up Termux and typing `rsync -avrsomgwtfbbq me@server/shopping-list.txt` with your thumbs, then by all means keep doing that! For the rest of us, there's Syncthing.

Filligree 2y ago

I've had to reset it multiple times due to the same sort of issue. There doesn't seem to be a good way to resolve conflicts; at least, none that reliably works.

generalizations 2y ago
You have to ensure there's continuity - at least something online and connected at all times, to ensure that the system can know and have distributed the latest version of the files. I just have it running on my desktop, and at this point, the system's been running for nearly 6 years, and the file conflicts are rare. They only happen when I e.g. do edits on my laptop offline, then go home and do more edits on my desktop before letting my laptop sync.

LeoPanthera 2y ago

Conflict files are good. It means you changed the same file in multiple locations and Syncthing didn't overwrite or delete any of them. Much like forest fires, only you can prevent conflict files.

KennyBlanken 2y ago
Nah. They're not alone. For me, syncthing would just randomly decide an updated file conflicted; I had two computers and a smartphone and was pretty careful about this stuff. It was its only fault - but it was easier to figure out what the actual most-current file was. Nextcloud does the same thing occasionally, and it's not intuitive at all trying to figure out which one is the proper one to keep.
- ta988 2y ago
  There was a bug in the android client a while back that was causing that it is much better now.

baby_souffle 2y ago

> I had to stop using it after loads of conflict files piled up over the years in my notes folder. SyncThing is still still _loads_ better than Next/Own-Cloud unless you also need the extra baggage those two bring. Having said that, "conflict-sync" files are my current issue. I have several devices that sync to a local central device and a remote central device and I'm struggling to determine if the "conflicts" that are _not_ conflicts are because of this "dual-honed" approach or not.

soupbowl 2y ago

I had similar issues years ago and it was frustrating. What I do now is have syncthing on a 'server' that is always on and everything syncs to the server and not between each device. That reduced my conflicts by 99%. Another issue I had was accidentally deleting a folder and having it deleted off of all my devices. To solve that issue I have my server do ZFS snapshots on my syncthing folder, which makes for easy recovery. With those 2 things being done, I can't say enough good things about syncthing. Compared to nextcloud it is almost maintenance free.

EGreg 2y ago
Why not just use rsync -a periodically over an encrypted ssh connection? It works across Mac/Linux etc. and is just as efficient, no? If you really want to be fancy, you can deploy a script to watch files for changes and do rsync immediately when it happene.
- dmd 2y ago
  You can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.
  - EGreg 2y ago
    Not sure why this would be easier or better FTP is not encrypted. Unless you use SFTP maybe. (I wrote an SFTP and FTP-over-SSH client in Visual Basic like 20 yesrs ago lol). And even then, you miss out on all the optimizations with prolly trees and other goodness that rsync has. No, sorry, that solution sucks. CVS? That’s super outdated.
    - fallingsquirrel 2y ago
      It's a reference to the infamous dropbox comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Anyways, if you're at the grocery store and you need to see your shopping list, and you're happy with your current workflow of opening up Termux and typing `rsync -avrsomgwtfbbq me@server/shopping-list.txt` with your thumbs, then by all means keep doing that! For the rest of us, there's Syncthing.