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As a Muslim who also spends considerable time in the Middle East, I am so totally confused by how America decided that wokism and pro-Palestinianism go together
by fakedang 2y ago
As a Muslim who also spends considerable time in the Middle East, I am so totally confused by how America decided that wokism and pro-Palestinianism go together. I mean, literally one is in support of a proposed country where they kill gays or throw them off of rooftops, not to mention the religious backdrop that encourages them to carry out such shit. The other is a movement in outwardly strong support for those gays. Like how?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_...
- mjfl 2y agoPalestinians, both gay and straight, are being carpet bombed in Gaza. The Western left tends to support the weak and oppressed. Being carpet bombed is a form of being weak and oppressed.
- lolinder 2y agoThe US has got into a place where for most people political opinions are a package deal that you get shipped to you in a box from a major political party. You don't think through each issue and come to a conclusion, that takes too much time, you just subscribe to the bundle of your choosing and accept everything they offer. Are you strongly pro-life? Well, that comes bundled with an isolationist foreign policy these days, so let's just check that box for you while we're at it. Are you in favor of gay rights? Well, that comes bundled with opposition to Israel and support of Palestine. It's not about what makes coherent sense, it's about groupthink.
- School-Cotton 2y agoNo major political party in the US is pro-Palestinian or anti-Israeli. The democrats are moderately pro-Israel and the republicans are extremely pro-Israel. The pro-Palestinian consensus among young people on social media is almost totally unrepresented in mainstream politics.
- School-Cotton 2y agoIsraeli atrocities against Palestinians are something that one can criticize independently of Palestinian atrocities against other Palestinians. Thinking Palestinians should be freed from Israeli oppression does not necessarily mean one agrees with every part of their culture or everything their government does.
- mjfl 2y agoAlso, very strange for you to claim to be a Muslim and then write a searing critique of Islam that would seem to dismiss the humanity of a group (approving of mass killing by bombing) of Muslims because of their religion of Islam.
- RandomThoughts3 2y agoJust to state the obvious as it seems it’s necessary Islam is 1400 years old. Despite what the Saudi would like you to believe, there is no such thing as a one and only heterodoxy that everyone agrees about and people have widely different relationship with the faith.
- mjfl 2y agobut all Muslims have the concept of the Ummah, the collective group of all Muslims, and it seems unlikely to me that any Muslim would approve of the dehumanization of Muslims as the OP had done. In fact it was the OP that projected an assumed belief onto all of the Palestinians. He seems more like yet another Israeli posting on the internet pretending to be a Muslim.
- RandomThoughts3 2y agoImplying that the way Palestinian authorities use Sharia to persecute some minorities is not a dehumanisation of a group. That’s the truth. That’s not approving what Israel is doing either. Please don’t deform what’s being say to suit your agenda. It doesn’t help your argument.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoHN is not the place to be making weird assumptions and accusations of bad faith. See the site guidelines.
- mjfl 2y agoHN, increasingly, seems like a space where free discourse is not allowed.