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I’m sort of surprised to see someone claiming schizophrenia is subjective. Schizophrenia has extraordinarily pronounced symptoms. It’s like claiming lupus doesn

I’m sort of surprised to see someone claiming schizophrenia is subjective. Schizophrenia has extraordinarily pronounced symptoms. It’s like claiming lupus doesn’t exist because there’s no single reliable diagnostic test for it. Schizophrenia has very specific and easily observed symptoms and is specifically affected by medications such as Zyprexa that doesn’t cause similar changes in behavior for people without schizophrenia or psychosis. However that and related medications have horrible side effects leading most patients to avoid taking it. For people who are or have family members ravaged by schizophrenia this is some of the best news you can imagine - a medication with similar beneficial effects on their loved ones but without turning them into zombies. It feels callous to an extraordinary degree to deny the existence of schizophrenia and to not recognize the benefit to a minimal side effect mediation that can give the schizophrenics life back.

niemal_dev 2y ago
This is actually a ridiculous answer. So you claim if you get get cold turkey'ed on Zyprexa you won't hallucinate or have mania? You claim, there are people out there, who take a dopamine antagonist without getting diabetes, organ issues, loss of self (fundamentally this is what these drugs do, deprive of brain function) and ultimately sudden death?
- fnordpiglet 2y ago
  I made no statements remotely like this.
  - niemal_dev 2y ago
    > Schizophrenia has very specific and easily observed symptoms and is specifically affected by medications such as Zyprexa that doesn’t cause similar changes in behavior for people without schizophrenia or psychosis. By the nature of these drugs, each and every symptom of what you pronounce Schizophrenia would be your daily life once on the poisonous neuro-toxic agents.
    - consteval 2y ago
      This doesn't seem science-backed and feels more emotional.
      - niemal_dev 2y ago
        Whatever feels for you emotional or not is irrelevant. It is science-backed that each and every "Schizophrenia" symptom of a book that resembles the bible and nothing else (going by the name of DSM) is a product of chemically induced damage and torture with neuro-toxic poison.
        consteval 2y ago
        It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication. That doesn't even account for people who have psychosis evident of schizophrenia but have never taken medication.
        niemal_dev 2y ago
        > It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication It truly is. The fact psychosis can be caused by alchohol withdrawal even (delirium) is irrelevant. Psychiatric "medications" directly cause schizophrenic symptoms and everything, hallucinations included. They not only lobotomize people, but also cause tremendous suffering and non reversible permanent damage. If you really believe all this, you should check your facts straight.
        consteval 2y ago
        Do you have any sources for this? No offense, but this sounds a bit crazy. Again, this doesn't account for people who are unmedicated and clearly have symptoms. Schizophrenia doesn't seem to be caused by Schizophrenia medication, that doesn't even make sense. How would they get the medication then?
        2y ago

niemal_dev 2y ago

This is actually a ridiculous answer. So you claim if you get get cold turkey'ed on Zyprexa you won't hallucinate or have mania? You claim, there are people out there, who take a dopamine antagonist without getting diabetes, organ issues, loss of self (fundamentally this is what these drugs do, deprive of brain function) and ultimately sudden death?

fnordpiglet 2y ago
I made no statements remotely like this.
- niemal_dev 2y ago
  > Schizophrenia has very specific and easily observed symptoms and is specifically affected by medications such as Zyprexa that doesn’t cause similar changes in behavior for people without schizophrenia or psychosis. By the nature of these drugs, each and every symptom of what you pronounce Schizophrenia would be your daily life once on the poisonous neuro-toxic agents.
  - consteval 2y ago
    This doesn't seem science-backed and feels more emotional.
    - niemal_dev 2y ago
      Whatever feels for you emotional or not is irrelevant. It is science-backed that each and every "Schizophrenia" symptom of a book that resembles the bible and nothing else (going by the name of DSM) is a product of chemically induced damage and torture with neuro-toxic poison.
      - consteval 2y ago
        It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication. That doesn't even account for people who have psychosis evident of schizophrenia but have never taken medication.
        niemal_dev 2y ago
        > It is not science-backed the schizophrenia is caused by schizophrenia medication It truly is. The fact psychosis can be caused by alchohol withdrawal even (delirium) is irrelevant. Psychiatric "medications" directly cause schizophrenic symptoms and everything, hallucinations included. They not only lobotomize people, but also cause tremendous suffering and non reversible permanent damage. If you really believe all this, you should check your facts straight.
        consteval 2y ago
        Do you have any sources for this? No offense, but this sounds a bit crazy. Again, this doesn't account for people who are unmedicated and clearly have symptoms. Schizophrenia doesn't seem to be caused by Schizophrenia medication, that doesn't even make sense. How would they get the medication then?
        2y ago