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Cause they're not raking in hundreds of millions of dollars every year, as WPE does, without giving back or adding any value whatsoever. Here are some big and

Cause they're not raking in hundreds of millions of dollars every year, as WPE does, without giving back or adding any value whatsoever. Here are some big and popular hosts that actually do give back. https://wordpress.org/hosting/ https://wordpress.org/hosting/ In the future, please inform yourself more before siding with the bad guys.

dangrossman 2y ago
There are approximately 330,000 web hosting companies not listed there, including a very long list that are larger than WPE, generate an order of magnitude more revenue than WPE, and host more WP installs than WPE. WP Engine has contributed full-time developer hours to the core WordPress code base for over 10 years, is a current Five for the Future contributing member, sponsors WordCamp events globally, produces the DE{CODE} series of conferences for WordPress developers, and maintains some of WordPress's most essential and popular plugins. To say "without giving back or adding any value whatsoever" is libel. It's defamatory and deeply untrue. You're committing one of several crimes Matt committed to start all this drama. Maybe you'll get to meet the "good guys" in person when you respond to the lawsuits in the same court system.
- hackerbeat 2y ago
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  - dangrossman 2y ago
    If Matt tells you what I just told you, will you believe Matt? Here it is on his website, wordpress.org: https://wordpress.org/five-for-the-future/pledge/wp-engine/ https://wordpress.org/five-for-the-future/pledge/wp-engine/
    - hackerbeat 2y ago
      This is just marketing speak and wasn't written by Matt. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "WP Engine sponsors 11 contributors for a total of 40 hours per week across 5 teams." Doesn't sound like a lot given the money they make. Biblical ROI.
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  - chuckadams 2y ago
    > PS: They also swapped WP's Stripe ID for the WooCommerce plugin for their own. I assume you can supply actual proof for this, right? Let's see if you have better luck than the last guy who went looking, because he came up with bupkis.
    - graeme 2y ago
      Also not clear to me that Woocommerce disclosed they get a commission from Stripe. That seems like a massive FTC violation.
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dangrossman 2y ago

There are approximately 330,000 web hosting companies not listed there, including a very long list that are larger than WPE, generate an order of magnitude more revenue than WPE, and host more WP installs than WPE. WP Engine has contributed full-time developer hours to the core WordPress code base for over 10 years, is a current Five for the Future contributing member, sponsors WordCamp events globally, produces the DE{CODE} series of conferences for WordPress developers, and maintains some of WordPress's most essential and popular plugins. To say "without giving back or adding any value whatsoever" is libel. It's defamatory and deeply untrue. You're committing one of several crimes Matt committed to start all this drama. Maybe you'll get to meet the "good guys" in person when you respond to the lawsuits in the same court system.

hackerbeat 2y ago
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- dangrossman 2y ago
  If Matt tells you what I just told you, will you believe Matt? Here it is on his website, wordpress.org: https://wordpress.org/five-for-the-future/pledge/wp-engine/ https://wordpress.org/five-for-the-future/pledge/wp-engine/
  - hackerbeat 2y ago
    This is just marketing speak and wasn't written by Matt. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "WP Engine sponsors 11 contributors for a total of 40 hours per week across 5 teams." Doesn't sound like a lot given the money they make. Biblical ROI.
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- chuckadams 2y ago
  > PS: They also swapped WP's Stripe ID for the WooCommerce plugin for their own. I assume you can supply actual proof for this, right? Let's see if you have better luck than the last guy who went looking, because he came up with bupkis.
  - graeme 2y ago
    Also not clear to me that Woocommerce disclosed they get a commission from Stripe. That seems like a massive FTC violation.
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