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"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over" Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates -

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over" Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

narrator 14y ago
You know, the point of a computer is to do work or play games with it. You do not need the absolute latest release of whatever to do useful work or play games.
jamesaguilar 14y ago
I'm just a user of Google's Android OS. My three-year old Windows and Mac computers still get the latest OS versions, as do my iPhones. I don't care about the particular reasons why my phone with Google's Android OS doesn't get updated. I just know it doesn't. Those are Google's problems, not mine. My problem is that I own an Android phone that is not on the latest version. > be smart about which droid phone you get My solution to this problem is to get an iPhone. Even the phones Google makes don't have the kind of update longevity Apple's do. The Nexus One did not get ICS, much less Jellybean. The 3GS is getting iOS 6.
- wvenable 14y ago
  You didn't buy your OS from Google. You didn't buy your device from Google. Your phone doesn't have the latest OS because your device manufacturer isn't giving it to you.
  - jamesaguilar 14y ago
    Yeah, I don't really care. It is Google branded, was developed primarily by Google, was marketed as "Google Android" and/or "Android by Google" at various times, has Google apps, has a store run by Google where I get more apps, and has Google's name associated with it in every news article I find about it online. It's a Google device to me, Joe Average Consumer. Your technicalities don't mean jack to me. Also, everything you said in this comment applies likewise when I get a laptop with Windows installed by an OEM. Are you prepared to argue that a Windows computer is in no part a Microsoft product and that Microsoft would not be responsible if the OS failed to update on my laptop?
    - wvenable 14y ago
      You have absolutely no business relationship with Google with regards to your device and yet you think it's their problem? Branding tells you what software it's running -- that's all -- it doesn't imply anything more.
      - jamesaguilar 14y ago
        So you ignored my point about Windows OEM. Would you like to address that or are you going to concede it?
        wvenable 14y ago
        I didn't see your point (you edited it in) Yes, I am prepared to argue that you have no direct business relationship with Microsoft when you purchase a PC. In fact, if you read your license agreement you will see that -- the first line in fact reads: "These license terms are an agreement between you and the computer manufacturer that distributes the software with the computer". According to the license the manufacturer accepts all responsibility for defects in Windows (including updates) for the warranty period. If you choose to install a version of Windows purchased directly from Microsoft, that's under completely different terms.
        jamesaguilar 14y ago
        This is not the question I asked. I asked you if you thought it would be wrong to consider Microsoft responsible for Windows failing to update on a recently acquired laptop. I am slightly curious as to your personal opinion, but in the main it simply doesn't matter what an individual hacker knowledgable about the business aspects of the ecosystem thinks. I'd be willing to stake up to a hundred dollars that if you find five random Windows users on the street and ask them "If Windows stopped updating on your machine, would you consider Microsoft responsible for that?" five of them would say yes (assuming they know that Windows updates at all :P). Whether you technically have a business relationship with Microsoft is totally uninteresting to most consumers, as is also true in this case with Google. What matters is the expectations created by marketing, branding, and UI. That's really all I have to say about this subject. Yes, I did edit it in, but I thought I had done it so quickly that you would not have seen the original comment. My apologies.
  - ubernostrum 14y ago
    Your phone doesn't have the latest OS because your device manufacturer isn't giving it to you. "You didn't buy it from Google, so it's your own fault" is probably not a great marketing tactic for the platform. Android is, in several ways, dependent on the goodwill and word-of-mouth promotion of people who care about things like getting their device's OS upgraded within a couple years of when the new OS is released. Losing that goodwill (which is surprisingly difficult when we consider all the different ways Google's basically said "fuck you" to the people who promoted Android for them) would probably be a major blow for the platform.
- metrop0219 14y ago
  Except that the 3GS isn't getting iOS6. It's lacking features from iOS6, such as Siri. Apple permeates this lie in order to fool you, the consumer, into thinking that they're completely 100% keeping everything up to date. While I agree they are doing a good job, they're still lying, and consumers (especially us) should be smart enough to see through this.
bratsche 14y ago
Uhh.. I have a Nexus One, and that was not my experience at all. It took a fucking long time to get updates. But maybe that's because I had one of the later models of Nexus One, which supported AT&T 3G, and all the updates only went out on time to the people who had the original model.
- Synaesthesia 14y ago
  Doesn't even have ICS yet
dudeanon842 14y ago
My nexus one is still my primary phone, and it has yet to be upgraded to ice cream sandwich, and is never slated to.
Synaesthesia 14y ago
The Nexus One doesn't even have ICS yet
crocowhile 14y ago
Wut? Nexus One is not getting ICS.

narrator 14y ago

You know, the point of a computer is to do work or play games with it. You do not need the absolute latest release of whatever to do useful work or play games.

jamesaguilar 14y ago

I'm just a user of Google's Android OS. My three-year old Windows and Mac computers still get the latest OS versions, as do my iPhones. I don't care about the particular reasons why my phone with Google's Android OS doesn't get updated. I just know it doesn't. Those are Google's problems, not mine. My problem is that I own an Android phone that is not on the latest version. > be smart about which droid phone you get My solution to this problem is to get an iPhone. Even the phones Google makes don't have the kind of update longevity Apple's do. The Nexus One did not get ICS, much less Jellybean. The 3GS is getting iOS 6.

wvenable 14y ago
You didn't buy your OS from Google. You didn't buy your device from Google. Your phone doesn't have the latest OS because your device manufacturer isn't giving it to you.
- jamesaguilar 14y ago
  Yeah, I don't really care. It is Google branded, was developed primarily by Google, was marketed as "Google Android" and/or "Android by Google" at various times, has Google apps, has a store run by Google where I get more apps, and has Google's name associated with it in every news article I find about it online. It's a Google device to me, Joe Average Consumer. Your technicalities don't mean jack to me. Also, everything you said in this comment applies likewise when I get a laptop with Windows installed by an OEM. Are you prepared to argue that a Windows computer is in no part a Microsoft product and that Microsoft would not be responsible if the OS failed to update on my laptop?
  - wvenable 14y ago
    You have absolutely no business relationship with Google with regards to your device and yet you think it's their problem? Branding tells you what software it's running -- that's all -- it doesn't imply anything more.
    - jamesaguilar 14y ago
      So you ignored my point about Windows OEM. Would you like to address that or are you going to concede it?
      - wvenable 14y ago
        I didn't see your point (you edited it in) Yes, I am prepared to argue that you have no direct business relationship with Microsoft when you purchase a PC. In fact, if you read your license agreement you will see that -- the first line in fact reads: "These license terms are an agreement between you and the computer manufacturer that distributes the software with the computer". According to the license the manufacturer accepts all responsibility for defects in Windows (including updates) for the warranty period. If you choose to install a version of Windows purchased directly from Microsoft, that's under completely different terms.
        jamesaguilar 14y ago
        This is not the question I asked. I asked you if you thought it would be wrong to consider Microsoft responsible for Windows failing to update on a recently acquired laptop. I am slightly curious as to your personal opinion, but in the main it simply doesn't matter what an individual hacker knowledgable about the business aspects of the ecosystem thinks. I'd be willing to stake up to a hundred dollars that if you find five random Windows users on the street and ask them "If Windows stopped updating on your machine, would you consider Microsoft responsible for that?" five of them would say yes (assuming they know that Windows updates at all :P). Whether you technically have a business relationship with Microsoft is totally uninteresting to most consumers, as is also true in this case with Google. What matters is the expectations created by marketing, branding, and UI. That's really all I have to say about this subject. Yes, I did edit it in, but I thought I had done it so quickly that you would not have seen the original comment. My apologies.
- ubernostrum 14y ago
  Your phone doesn't have the latest OS because your device manufacturer isn't giving it to you. "You didn't buy it from Google, so it's your own fault" is probably not a great marketing tactic for the platform. Android is, in several ways, dependent on the goodwill and word-of-mouth promotion of people who care about things like getting their device's OS upgraded within a couple years of when the new OS is released. Losing that goodwill (which is surprisingly difficult when we consider all the different ways Google's basically said "fuck you" to the people who promoted Android for them) would probably be a major blow for the platform.
metrop0219 14y ago
Except that the 3GS isn't getting iOS6. It's lacking features from iOS6, such as Siri. Apple permeates this lie in order to fool you, the consumer, into thinking that they're completely 100% keeping everything up to date. While I agree they are doing a good job, they're still lying, and consumers (especially us) should be smart enough to see through this.

bratsche 14y ago

Uhh.. I have a Nexus One, and that was not my experience at all. It took a fucking long time to get updates. But maybe that's because I had one of the later models of Nexus One, which supported AT&T 3G, and all the updates only went out on time to the people who had the original model.

Synaesthesia 14y ago
Doesn't even have ICS yet

dudeanon842 14y ago

My nexus one is still my primary phone, and it has yet to be upgraded to ice cream sandwich, and is never slated to.

Synaesthesia 14y ago

The Nexus One doesn't even have ICS yet

crocowhile 14y ago

Wut? Nexus One is not getting ICS.