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Yup; this is common at research universities, where professors’ tenure evaluations are largely based on research accomplishments and fundraising. I’ve had many

Yup; this is common at research universities, where professors’ tenure evaluations are largely based on research accomplishments and fundraising. I’ve had many friends tell me that they had better experiences with community college professors compared to university professors, since the community college professors are there to teach. (Disclaimer: I am a new community college instructor of computer science who worked as a researcher in industry for nine years before wanting a career change.)

akomtu 2y ago
What's "tenure evaluation"?
- linguae 2y ago
  Typically when a person is hired for a tenure-track professorship at a university, that person doesn’t immediately start out with tenure, which is a status that means the professor cannot be fired without cause. Rather, most professors start out as assistant professors who have six years to prove to the university and their peers that they can meet the university’s bar regarding research productivity, teaching, and service (to the university, the community, the discipline the professor researches, and society). During the sixth year of employment the university evaluates the professor’s contributions and then decides whether to grant that professor tenure. If the professor is granted tenure, then the professor is usually promoted to associate professor and doesn’t need to worry about getting fired except in cases of misconduct (e.g., a professor taking an unapproved vacation in the middle of the semester; a professor having an inappropriate relationship with a student, postdoc, or advisee; a professor caught plagiarizing, etc.), though layoffs could still happen. However, if a professor is denied tenure, while there is usually an appeals process, the professor isn’t allowed to stay at that university beyond the end of the sixth year, and so the professor must move on, either to another university or often to another career.
- eszed 2y ago
  Everything linguae says is correct. The additional bit of the system to understand is that the actual teaching (of undergraduate courses) is done by "Adjuncts", who are holders of advanced degrees, but on contract (ie, not salaried employees of the institution) for each class. Adjuncts generally earn poverty wages, and exist in a state of profound financial and existential insecurity. Universities won't hire any individual adjunct for more than a certain number of classes per term (lest they become a full-time employee, to whom they owe health insurance and other benefits), so adjuncts usually need find employment with more than one institution, or else a secondary job to make ends meet (I met folks, teaching at universities you've heard of, working in restaurants and fast-food on the side). Even worse, universities (by and large; maybe there are honorable exceptions I've not heard of) will not consider their adjuncts for promotion to tenure-track positions. Even worser, other universities likely won't consider you for tenure-track if you've adjuncted elsewhere - so, even if you've managed to publish some interesting papers on top of your teaching grind (I'm coming from a Humanities background, where that's more possible than in STEM), the people who know you won't hire you, and you aren't able to claim your association with [Prestigious Institution] because the stench of "Adjunct" hangs about it. (The additional point about community colleges is correct. You will often find better undergraduate instruction - from imminently qualified professors - there than you will at brand-name universities. However, some community college systems are also starting to adjunct their classes, as a cost-saving measure.) There's a concept of "Elite Overproduction", that I think explains the phenomenon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction This is how empires fall.

akomtu 2y ago

What's "tenure evaluation"?

linguae 2y ago
Typically when a person is hired for a tenure-track professorship at a university, that person doesn’t immediately start out with tenure, which is a status that means the professor cannot be fired without cause. Rather, most professors start out as assistant professors who have six years to prove to the university and their peers that they can meet the university’s bar regarding research productivity, teaching, and service (to the university, the community, the discipline the professor researches, and society). During the sixth year of employment the university evaluates the professor’s contributions and then decides whether to grant that professor tenure. If the professor is granted tenure, then the professor is usually promoted to associate professor and doesn’t need to worry about getting fired except in cases of misconduct (e.g., a professor taking an unapproved vacation in the middle of the semester; a professor having an inappropriate relationship with a student, postdoc, or advisee; a professor caught plagiarizing, etc.), though layoffs could still happen. However, if a professor is denied tenure, while there is usually an appeals process, the professor isn’t allowed to stay at that university beyond the end of the sixth year, and so the professor must move on, either to another university or often to another career.
eszed 2y ago
Everything linguae says is correct. The additional bit of the system to understand is that the actual teaching (of undergraduate courses) is done by "Adjuncts", who are holders of advanced degrees, but on contract (ie, not salaried employees of the institution) for each class. Adjuncts generally earn poverty wages, and exist in a state of profound financial and existential insecurity. Universities won't hire any individual adjunct for more than a certain number of classes per term (lest they become a full-time employee, to whom they owe health insurance and other benefits), so adjuncts usually need find employment with more than one institution, or else a secondary job to make ends meet (I met folks, teaching at universities you've heard of, working in restaurants and fast-food on the side). Even worse, universities (by and large; maybe there are honorable exceptions I've not heard of) will not consider their adjuncts for promotion to tenure-track positions. Even worser, other universities likely won't consider you for tenure-track if you've adjuncted elsewhere - so, even if you've managed to publish some interesting papers on top of your teaching grind (I'm coming from a Humanities background, where that's more possible than in STEM), the people who know you won't hire you, and you aren't able to claim your association with [Prestigious Institution] because the stench of "Adjunct" hangs about it. (The additional point about community colleges is correct. You will often find better undergraduate instruction - from imminently qualified professors - there than you will at brand-name universities. However, some community college systems are also starting to adjunct their classes, as a cost-saving measure.) There's a concept of "Elite Overproduction", that I think explains the phenomenon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction This is how empires fall.