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Godot social media account blocks titanium level backer for the Godot fund

51 points by neonsunset 2y ago

latexr 2y ago
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- neonsunset 2y ago
  It's a worrying precedent in Godot's community management conduct that is the last thing you want to see from a project that is so promising at improving the health of the gamedev ecosystem. Saying that, this is a submission with a fairly technical focus, especially when compared to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41391684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41391684 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41106977 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41106977 (both of which are luckily [dead]).
  - latexr 2y ago
    > It's a worrying precedent This is not a court of law. One small likely temporary event is not a pattern. https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840342627717152786 https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840342627717152786 > that is the last thing you want to see That’s hyperbolic. I can think of several things that would be worse and far more impactful. For example: deleting the repo, changing the license, and going to work for Unity. > this is a submission with a fairly technical focus It’s one person complaining of being blocked on social media ad threatening to stop their 100€ support. https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840349953610109352 https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840349953610109352 There’s no technical focus here, this is internet drama getting more out of hand than it deserves.
    - raydev 2y ago
      It's actually a pattern of behavior, but no one's done a complete writeup yet. I agree that this single tweet doesn't meet the standards for a discussion point.
      - muhuk 2y ago
        https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6171454/godot-game-engine-enacts-mass-cleansing-of-non-woke-supporters https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6171454/godot-game-engine-en...
        ChocolateGod 2y ago
        I find Lunduke tends to over dramatize things, even if there is usually an element in truth in what he's saying. Side note: I'm not a conservative.
    - neonsunset 2y ago
      > This is not a court of law. One small likely temporary event is not a pattern. > It’s one person complaining of being blocked on social media ad threatening to stop their 100€ support. There is evidence that directly contradicts this: https://x.com/Xrayez/status/1839981060853043696 https://x.com/Xrayez/status/1839981060853043696 (subsequent thread is also interesting to read, both from technical and group dynamics perspective) > There’s no technical focus here, this is internet drama getting more out of hand than it deserves. What was the focus of the two (dead) submissions posted from your account linked above? This one highlights a situation that affects a technical project, its continued community health and future contributions to its development.
      - latexr 2y ago
        You’re the one fixated over technical focus. HN’s guidelines specifically say what’s on topic “includes more than hacking and startups”. Either way, trawling through history to find something unrelated to nitpick is quite the bad faith argument. You have your fair share of downvoted comments too, but I’m not about to bring those up for a conversation that has nothing to do with those.
- alterae 2y ago
  yeah honestly looking at the (frustratingly small amount of) info i've been able to find it seems like the godot folks are behaving pretty reasonably, and this drama is like most drama—needlessly inflated.
  - m00x 2y ago
    They're blocking everyone that ask them to stay out of politics and focus on the engine. I got banned for submitting my game in the showreel because it has Christianity elements. They've been taken over by activism. I'm fine with then promoting LGBTQ games, but they're being unfair to everyone else.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
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rsynnott 2y ago
Extreme “I want to speak to your manager” energy.
neonsunset 2y ago
Godot foundation posted an update: https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300 https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300 Community responses (that may or may not represent active users of or contributors to Godot): https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300/quotes https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300/quo... https://x.com/godotengine/status/1840723164000575845/quotes https://x.com/godotengine/status/1840723164000575845/quotes
- declan_roberts 2y ago
  "We were harassed and started blocking users indiscriminately. Here's a google link if you think you were blocked for not harassing us." is basically the summary. It's 2024. If you're taking money from people and they're building a product with you, then you need to have a little bit thicker skin than what was shown by the community manager.
nioj 2y ago
See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41689100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41689100 | The Godot Manager Went Rogue (3000 Accounts Blocked) (twitter.com/grummz) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41690793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41690793 | Godot Engine Blocking Users (twitter.com/pirat_nation)

51 points by neonsunset 2y ago

latexr 2y ago

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neonsunset 2y ago
It's a worrying precedent in Godot's community management conduct that is the last thing you want to see from a project that is so promising at improving the health of the gamedev ecosystem. Saying that, this is a submission with a fairly technical focus, especially when compared to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41391684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41391684 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41106977 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41106977 (both of which are luckily [dead]).
- latexr 2y ago
  > It's a worrying precedent This is not a court of law. One small likely temporary event is not a pattern. https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840342627717152786 https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840342627717152786 > that is the last thing you want to see That’s hyperbolic. I can think of several things that would be worse and far more impactful. For example: deleting the repo, changing the license, and going to work for Unity. > this is a submission with a fairly technical focus It’s one person complaining of being blocked on social media ad threatening to stop their 100€ support. https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840349953610109352 https://x.com/LifeArtStudios/status/1840349953610109352 There’s no technical focus here, this is internet drama getting more out of hand than it deserves.
  - raydev 2y ago
    It's actually a pattern of behavior, but no one's done a complete writeup yet. I agree that this single tweet doesn't meet the standards for a discussion point.
    - muhuk 2y ago
      https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6171454/godot-game-engine-enacts-mass-cleansing-of-non-woke-supporters https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6171454/godot-game-engine-en...
      - ChocolateGod 2y ago
        I find Lunduke tends to over dramatize things, even if there is usually an element in truth in what he's saying. Side note: I'm not a conservative.
  - neonsunset 2y ago
    > This is not a court of law. One small likely temporary event is not a pattern. > It’s one person complaining of being blocked on social media ad threatening to stop their 100€ support. There is evidence that directly contradicts this: https://x.com/Xrayez/status/1839981060853043696 https://x.com/Xrayez/status/1839981060853043696 (subsequent thread is also interesting to read, both from technical and group dynamics perspective) > There’s no technical focus here, this is internet drama getting more out of hand than it deserves. What was the focus of the two (dead) submissions posted from your account linked above? This one highlights a situation that affects a technical project, its continued community health and future contributions to its development.
    - latexr 2y ago
      You’re the one fixated over technical focus. HN’s guidelines specifically say what’s on topic “includes more than hacking and startups”. Either way, trawling through history to find something unrelated to nitpick is quite the bad faith argument. You have your fair share of downvoted comments too, but I’m not about to bring those up for a conversation that has nothing to do with those.
alterae 2y ago
yeah honestly looking at the (frustratingly small amount of) info i've been able to find it seems like the godot folks are behaving pretty reasonably, and this drama is like most drama—needlessly inflated.
- m00x 2y ago
  They're blocking everyone that ask them to stay out of politics and focus on the engine. I got banned for submitting my game in the showreel because it has Christianity elements. They've been taken over by activism. I'm fine with then promoting LGBTQ games, but they're being unfair to everyone else.
- anonfordays 2y ago
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rsynnott 2y ago

Extreme “I want to speak to your manager” energy.

neonsunset 2y ago

Godot foundation posted an update: https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300 https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300 Community responses (that may or may not represent active users of or contributors to Godot): https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300/quotes https://x.com/godotfoundation/status/1840721449364988300/quo... https://x.com/godotengine/status/1840723164000575845/quotes https://x.com/godotengine/status/1840723164000575845/quotes

declan_roberts 2y ago
"We were harassed and started blocking users indiscriminately. Here's a google link if you think you were blocked for not harassing us." is basically the summary. It's 2024. If you're taking money from people and they're building a product with you, then you need to have a little bit thicker skin than what was shown by the community manager.

nioj 2y ago

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41689100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41689100 | The Godot Manager Went Rogue (3000 Accounts Blocked) (twitter.com/grummz) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41690793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41690793 | Godot Engine Blocking Users (twitter.com/pirat_nation)