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Seems a reasonable move having in mind the number of times that Russia said lately that they want Lithuania "returned" to them. And we all know what on Russia "

Seems a reasonable move having in mind the number of times that Russia said lately that they want Lithuania "returned" to them. And we all know what on Russia "liberate" means "laminate". Not helping the people that wants you dead is wise

protomolecule 2y ago
>the number of times that Russia said lately that they want Lithuania "returned" to them Zero?
- pvaldes 2y ago
  > Zero? Wrong answer. Try again 2022. https://www.jpost.com/international/article-709046 https://www.jpost.com/international/article-709046
  - protomolecule 2y ago
    I see in the article that an MP (well-known clown, btw) submitted a bill claiming that the recognition of Lithuanian independence was illegal. The bill went nowhere, of course. How did that manage to become "Russia said" in your mind? The proper title for that article should've been "Russian parliament refused to even consider the bill claiming illegality of Lithuanian independence", but instead the "journalists" decided to additionally cite some random guy to try to make it a story. I could play that game too. Lithuania said that people living there must be shot for listening to Russian music: “Let's imagine a family where the father loudly turns on a Russian movie and the mother loudly listens to Russian music. The question is what to do first: to take away the children and then shoot them (the parents), or already in front of the children. No, of course, first take away the children and then shoot them,” said Algis Ramanauskas. [0] But it would be silly to pretend that this Nazi speaks for Lithuania, wouldn't it? [0] https://t.me/uranews/100902 https://t.me/uranews/100902
    - pvaldes 2y ago
      May 2024. Financial Times: "The Russian defence ministry late on Thuesday laid out a plan to unilaterally expand the country’s maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland. Less than 24 hours later, it deleted the proposal from the government website" "Another Russian hybrid operation is under way, this time attempting to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt about their intentions in the Baltic Sea [...] Lithuania’s foreign minister, said on Wednesday". January 2024. Lithuanian National Radio and Television. Putin claimed on Tuesday that Latvia and other Baltic states are “throwing [ethnic] Russian people” out of their countries and that this situation “directly affects [Russia’s] security.” Exactly the same narratives that were used months before to justify the Ukraine invasion.
      - protomolecule 2y ago
        And where is Russia saying "that they want Lithuania "returned" to them"? For the context, by the way, consider that earlier in May Baltic NATO members were discussing naval blockade of Russia [0]. A blockade is not a hybrid war, it is an act of war. [0] https://mil.in.ua/en/news/estonia-proposes-to-blockade-the-baltic-sea-for-russia/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/estonia-proposes-to-blockade-the-b...
        pvaldes 2y ago
        Putin has been transparent and explicit for more than 20 years about their goal to recover as much territories from the Russian Empire as they can, either by soft or by hard means. This includes the Baltic Republics. I think that the fact that the government of Russia were debating in 2022 about if the Lithuania independence from Russia was "legal" or not, is very revealing in itself. But what Russia says does not matter anymore, only what they do. Putin has started one war on Georgia, two wars against Chechnya and one war on Ukraine. All his actions had been solid and consistent towards that dream of "rebuilt Russian empire again". Everybody knows that Lithuania hasn't been invaded yet because NATO. Is also of public knowledge that Russians want madly a land connection with Kaliningrad. Lithuania can't expect anything friendly or casual from the current Russian regime.

protomolecule 2y ago

>the number of times that Russia said lately that they want Lithuania "returned" to them Zero?

pvaldes 2y ago
> Zero? Wrong answer. Try again 2022. https://www.jpost.com/international/article-709046 https://www.jpost.com/international/article-709046
- protomolecule 2y ago
  I see in the article that an MP (well-known clown, btw) submitted a bill claiming that the recognition of Lithuanian independence was illegal. The bill went nowhere, of course. How did that manage to become "Russia said" in your mind? The proper title for that article should've been "Russian parliament refused to even consider the bill claiming illegality of Lithuanian independence", but instead the "journalists" decided to additionally cite some random guy to try to make it a story. I could play that game too. Lithuania said that people living there must be shot for listening to Russian music: “Let's imagine a family where the father loudly turns on a Russian movie and the mother loudly listens to Russian music. The question is what to do first: to take away the children and then shoot them (the parents), or already in front of the children. No, of course, first take away the children and then shoot them,” said Algis Ramanauskas. [0] But it would be silly to pretend that this Nazi speaks for Lithuania, wouldn't it? [0] https://t.me/uranews/100902 https://t.me/uranews/100902
  - pvaldes 2y ago
    May 2024. Financial Times: "The Russian defence ministry late on Thuesday laid out a plan to unilaterally expand the country’s maritime borders with Lithuania and Finland. Less than 24 hours later, it deleted the proposal from the government website" "Another Russian hybrid operation is under way, this time attempting to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt about their intentions in the Baltic Sea [...] Lithuania’s foreign minister, said on Wednesday". January 2024. Lithuanian National Radio and Television. Putin claimed on Tuesday that Latvia and other Baltic states are “throwing [ethnic] Russian people” out of their countries and that this situation “directly affects [Russia’s] security.” Exactly the same narratives that were used months before to justify the Ukraine invasion.
    - protomolecule 2y ago
      And where is Russia saying "that they want Lithuania "returned" to them"? For the context, by the way, consider that earlier in May Baltic NATO members were discussing naval blockade of Russia [0]. A blockade is not a hybrid war, it is an act of war. [0] https://mil.in.ua/en/news/estonia-proposes-to-blockade-the-baltic-sea-for-russia/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/estonia-proposes-to-blockade-the-b...
      - pvaldes 2y ago
        Putin has been transparent and explicit for more than 20 years about their goal to recover as much territories from the Russian Empire as they can, either by soft or by hard means. This includes the Baltic Republics. I think that the fact that the government of Russia were debating in 2022 about if the Lithuania independence from Russia was "legal" or not, is very revealing in itself. But what Russia says does not matter anymore, only what they do. Putin has started one war on Georgia, two wars against Chechnya and one war on Ukraine. All his actions had been solid and consistent towards that dream of "rebuilt Russian empire again". Everybody knows that Lithuania hasn't been invaded yet because NATO. Is also of public knowledge that Russians want madly a land connection with Kaliningrad. Lithuania can't expect anything friendly or casual from the current Russian regime.