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> I was commenting on a statement you made about the cost of upgrade. Somehow you've found a linkage (or absence of a linkage) to war in your response. My comm

> I was commenting on a statement you made about the cost of upgrade. Somehow you've found a linkage (or absence of a linkage) to war in your response. My comment is about danger of RBK-1000 in real life, which cannot be upgraded to a safe reactor type, because of huge cost of upgrade. > Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons it inherited from the Soviet Union Ukraine can produce more at any time. It's not a hard problem for the country, which developed nukes and missiles for Soviet Union and RF. Currently, the main problem is that Ukraine cannot produce long-range missiles fast enough. > The captured power stations are not of this kind; they are all VVER. Yes, but Russia has RBK-1000 type nuclear reactors in production and they hire former Ukrainian operators to operate their nuclear stations. Do you see a problem here?

chickenbig 2y ago
> cannot be upgraded to a safe reactor According to Wikipedia they have been upgraded to be safer (e.g redesign of the control rods). No such a thing as totally safe, except if the thing does not exist. > Ukraine can produce more at any time The question of getting appropriate nuclear materials looms large. Also all the Atomgrad appear to have all been in Russia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project)
- oneshtein 2y ago
  Safer != safe. > The question of getting appropriate nuclear materials looms large. Ukraine has nuclear reactors. It's not a problem for a nuclear country.
  - chickenbig 2y ago
    > Safer != safe. Absolute safety is not achievable. Crossing the road is not safe. Going down the stairs is not safe. > nuclear reactors Reactor plutonium != bomb grade plutonium. The Uranium supply used to be enriched by Russia.
    - chickenbig 2y ago
      (Note that I meant the following) > nuclear reactors Reactor plutonium != bomb grade plutonium. The Uranium supply used to be enriched by Russia.

chickenbig 2y ago

> cannot be upgraded to a safe reactor According to Wikipedia they have been upgraded to be safer (e.g redesign of the control rods). No such a thing as totally safe, except if the thing does not exist. > Ukraine can produce more at any time The question of getting appropriate nuclear materials looms large. Also all the Atomgrad appear to have all been in Russia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project)

oneshtein 2y ago
Safer != safe. > The question of getting appropriate nuclear materials looms large. Ukraine has nuclear reactors. It's not a problem for a nuclear country.
- chickenbig 2y ago
  > Safer != safe. Absolute safety is not achievable. Crossing the road is not safe. Going down the stairs is not safe. > nuclear reactors Reactor plutonium != bomb grade plutonium. The Uranium supply used to be enriched by Russia.
  - chickenbig 2y ago
    (Note that I meant the following) > nuclear reactors Reactor plutonium != bomb grade plutonium. The Uranium supply used to be enriched by Russia.