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You mean they should stop working on the OS to save you some "not the latest" anxiety?

rayiner 14y ago
No, they should do like Apple and not obsolete Android devices that aren't even released yet. It's part of making customers feel good about buying your product.
- tonfa 14y ago
  The Xoom is pretty old and should be getting JB.
  - Achshar 14y ago
    The xoom 2 or the very first one? It got off from 3.1 and then got 3.2, 4.0 and now 4.1. That sounds like a nexus like update life. Is nexus 7 really the first google tablet?
    - tonfa 14y ago
      The first one. (The Xoom 2 isn't a Google experience device ~= nexus)
stcredzero 14y ago
There's less anxiety about iOS 6 vs iOS 7. Numbers don't get the same feelings attached to them as a name like "Ice Cream Sandwich."
- SoftwareMaven 14y ago
  It has nothing to do with numbers versus names. It has to do with the knowledge that, if I buy an iOS device today, I know I'll get the next couple of OS releases. The is absolutely not the case with Android (unless you want to deal with rooting your device). I don't think anybody would care about buying a device with a slightly out-of-date OS if they knew updates would be coming.
  - stcredzero 14y ago
    > It has to do with the knowledge that, if I buy an iOS device today, I know I'll get the next couple of OS releases. True that. Actually, Apple gets the best of both worlds. If your iOS device isn't up to date enough, then you're forced at that point to upgrade. So Apple wins on both ends: newer hardware is bought with a degree of comfort, and those who hold on are motivated to pony up for new kit.
  - SwellJoe 14y ago
    Nexus branded devices do get the OS updates in a timely manner. It's part of the Google Nexus experience. This is actually one of the reasons Google keeps putting out devices...to keep their OEMs honest and moving forward. It isn't working as well as I'd like (my HTC Sensation 4G which I bought on short notice to replace my Nexus One, which broke while I was traveling, still doesn't have ICS, despite having HTC assurances that it would be out early in the first quarter; I've given up and will be rooting it), but when you buy an Android device from Google, it's gonna get the latest Android for at least a couple of years.
    - anigbrowl 14y ago
      cough Nexus One cough
      - SwellJoe 14y ago
        I loved my Nexus One, and it was always on top of the latest official Android releases for about three years (and, if you wanted to root it, there's still good community support for it).
        kylec 14y ago
        The Nexus One has only been out for 2.5 years (since Jan 2010) and it was announced back in October that it wouldn't be getting ICS because it was "too old", which at that time was still less than 2 years since its launch. http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/26/the-nexus-one-isnt-invited-to-the-ice-cream-sandwich-social/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/26/the-nexus-one-isnt-invited-...
btipling 14y ago
Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.
- jamesaguilar 14y ago
  I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.
  - J3L2404 14y ago
    Yeah, but theirs is unplanned obsolescence.
    - mkaltenecker 14y ago
      Hihi, you are funny. You view of the companies clearly colors your view. It’s not really clear that either company plans or does not plan the obsolescence of their devices. The end result, however, is that iOS devices become obsolete much more slowly than Android devices. What do I care about the reading of tea leaves as to whether some company plans something or not?
      - InclinedPlane 14y ago
        Apple owns the entire ecosystem, they can't claim anything they do to it is unplanned. Google merely owns the OS and a few devices, they can't control what samsung and htc and everyone else decides to do or not do.
        mkaltenecker 14y ago
        “Planned obsolescence” implies that a device is made obsolete to force people to buy newer devices as opposed to other reasons. Just because a device becomes obsolete doesn’t mean it’s “planned obsolescence”, even with total control over the whole ecosystem. That’s at least how “planned obsolescence” is commonly used and defined. “Planned obsolescence” as a term implies a reason (forcing people to buy newer devices), so not all forms of planned obsolescence (not as a term, notice the lack of quotation marks) are really “planned obsolescence” (as the term implying the reason). Since we can’t read minds it’s definitely akin to reading tea leaves when you want to find out whether “planned obsolescence” plays any role for Apple.

No, they should do like Apple and not obsolete Android devices that aren't even released yet. It's part of making customers feel good about buying your product.

tonfa 14y ago
The Xoom is pretty old and should be getting JB.
- Achshar 14y ago
  The xoom 2 or the very first one? It got off from 3.1 and then got 3.2, 4.0 and now 4.1. That sounds like a nexus like update life. Is nexus 7 really the first google tablet?
  - tonfa 14y ago
    The first one. (The Xoom 2 isn't a Google experience device ~= nexus)

stcredzero 14y ago

There's less anxiety about iOS 6 vs iOS 7. Numbers don't get the same feelings attached to them as a name like "Ice Cream Sandwich."

SoftwareMaven 14y ago
It has nothing to do with numbers versus names. It has to do with the knowledge that, if I buy an iOS device today, I know I'll get the next couple of OS releases. The is absolutely not the case with Android (unless you want to deal with rooting your device). I don't think anybody would care about buying a device with a slightly out-of-date OS if they knew updates would be coming.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  > It has to do with the knowledge that, if I buy an iOS device today, I know I'll get the next couple of OS releases. True that. Actually, Apple gets the best of both worlds. If your iOS device isn't up to date enough, then you're forced at that point to upgrade. So Apple wins on both ends: newer hardware is bought with a degree of comfort, and those who hold on are motivated to pony up for new kit.
- SwellJoe 14y ago
  Nexus branded devices do get the OS updates in a timely manner. It's part of the Google Nexus experience. This is actually one of the reasons Google keeps putting out devices...to keep their OEMs honest and moving forward. It isn't working as well as I'd like (my HTC Sensation 4G which I bought on short notice to replace my Nexus One, which broke while I was traveling, still doesn't have ICS, despite having HTC assurances that it would be out early in the first quarter; I've given up and will be rooting it), but when you buy an Android device from Google, it's gonna get the latest Android for at least a couple of years.
  - anigbrowl 14y ago
    cough Nexus One cough
    - SwellJoe 14y ago
      I loved my Nexus One, and it was always on top of the latest official Android releases for about three years (and, if you wanted to root it, there's still good community support for it).
      - kylec 14y ago
        The Nexus One has only been out for 2.5 years (since Jan 2010) and it was announced back in October that it wouldn't be getting ICS because it was "too old", which at that time was still less than 2 years since its launch. http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/26/the-nexus-one-isnt-invited-to-the-ice-cream-sandwich-social/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/26/the-nexus-one-isnt-invited-...

btipling 14y ago

Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

jamesaguilar 14y ago
I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.
- J3L2404 14y ago
  Yeah, but theirs is unplanned obsolescence.
  - mkaltenecker 14y ago
    Hihi, you are funny. You view of the companies clearly colors your view. It’s not really clear that either company plans or does not plan the obsolescence of their devices. The end result, however, is that iOS devices become obsolete much more slowly than Android devices. What do I care about the reading of tea leaves as to whether some company plans something or not?
    - InclinedPlane 14y ago
      Apple owns the entire ecosystem, they can't claim anything they do to it is unplanned. Google merely owns the OS and a few devices, they can't control what samsung and htc and everyone else decides to do or not do.
      - mkaltenecker 14y ago
        “Planned obsolescence” implies that a device is made obsolete to force people to buy newer devices as opposed to other reasons. Just because a device becomes obsolete doesn’t mean it’s “planned obsolescence”, even with total control over the whole ecosystem. That’s at least how “planned obsolescence” is commonly used and defined. “Planned obsolescence” as a term implies a reason (forcing people to buy newer devices), so not all forms of planned obsolescence (not as a term, notice the lack of quotation marks) are really “planned obsolescence” (as the term implying the reason). Since we can’t read minds it’s definitely akin to reading tea leaves when you want to find out whether “planned obsolescence” plays any role for Apple.