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The true alternative to Photos is Immich: https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich. Anything that someone else hosts is not in

by ein0p 2y ago

The true alternative to Photos is Immich: https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich. Anything that someone else hosts is not in any way "private".

microsoftedging 2y ago
You can self host ente if you want I'm pretty sure https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/ https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/
- marcus0x62 2y ago
  You can, and you can use the Ente-published mobile apps with your self-hosted instance. The setup process is a bit rough, but it absolutely works.
prophesi 2y ago
They also have quite the disclaimer :/ - The project is under very active development. - Expect bugs and breaking changes. - Do not use the app as the only way to store your photos and videos. - Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos! edit: Though those last two are applicable to any data hosting solution.
- ein0p 2y ago
  I've been using Immich for over a year. "Maintenance" boils down to weekly docker compose pull and a restart. There's semantic search, deduplication, mapping, face recognition etc etc. I do not miss Google Photos at all, and can recommend Immich without any reservations to anyone with even basic understanding of docker compose.
windlep 2y ago
I self-host Immich and its definitely my favorite web photo system. One thing with Ente that aligns more with Mozilla's approach to data however is end-to-end encryption, which Ente has, but Immich doesn't. So I can see why Mozilla funded this option instead. I personally wish that self-hosting was a more reliable and simplified process for the average person such that simpler and more powerful software like Immich was the best choice for all.
- ein0p 2y ago
  Self hosted Immich doesn't need end-to-end encryption, and the lack of it enables a number of very useful server-side features. If your end-to-end encryption has not undergone a security audit, it's as good as if there was no encryption at all.
  - vishnumohandas 2y ago
    Ente's use of cryptography[1] has been externally audited[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/architecture https://ente.io/architecture [2]: https://ente.io/blog/cryptography-audit https://ente.io/blog/cryptography-audit
  - windlep 2y ago
    Yes, that was kind of my point. Self-hosted negates the need, but most can't self host.... so that leaves end-to-end encryption the best intermediate step.

by ein0p 2y ago

The true alternative to Photos is Immich: https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich. Anything that someone else hosts is not in any way "private".

microsoftedging 2y ago

You can self host ente if you want I'm pretty sure https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/ https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/

marcus0x62 2y ago
You can, and you can use the Ente-published mobile apps with your self-hosted instance. The setup process is a bit rough, but it absolutely works.

prophesi 2y ago

They also have quite the disclaimer :/ - The project is under very active development. - Expect bugs and breaking changes. - Do not use the app as the only way to store your photos and videos. - Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos! edit: Though those last two are applicable to any data hosting solution.

ein0p 2y ago
I've been using Immich for over a year. "Maintenance" boils down to weekly docker compose pull and a restart. There's semantic search, deduplication, mapping, face recognition etc etc. I do not miss Google Photos at all, and can recommend Immich without any reservations to anyone with even basic understanding of docker compose.

windlep 2y ago

I self-host Immich and its definitely my favorite web photo system. One thing with Ente that aligns more with Mozilla's approach to data however is end-to-end encryption, which Ente has, but Immich doesn't. So I can see why Mozilla funded this option instead. I personally wish that self-hosting was a more reliable and simplified process for the average person such that simpler and more powerful software like Immich was the best choice for all.

ein0p 2y ago
Self hosted Immich doesn't need end-to-end encryption, and the lack of it enables a number of very useful server-side features. If your end-to-end encryption has not undergone a security audit, it's as good as if there was no encryption at all.
- vishnumohandas 2y ago
  Ente's use of cryptography[1] has been externally audited[2]. [1]: https://ente.io/architecture https://ente.io/architecture [2]: https://ente.io/blog/cryptography-audit https://ente.io/blog/cryptography-audit
- windlep 2y ago
  Yes, that was kind of my point. Self-hosted negates the need, but most can't self host.... so that leaves end-to-end encryption the best intermediate step.