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Why? Competition and alternatives are good for everyone.

by PenguinCoder 2y ago

beanjuiceII 2y ago
they aren't spending their money on competing
- PenguinCoder 2y ago
  Firefox existing, is competition against a world of Chromium.
  - cstrahan 2y ago
    How is Mozilla funding a private Google Photos alternative “competition against a world of Chromium”? Maybe you didn’t follow the thread close enough — the complaint isn’t that funding Firefox is counterproductive, but that shoveling dollars to a non-Firefox product does nothing to help Firefox compete against Chrome/Chromium, which is kinda hard to argue against, no?
vlovich123 2y ago
Focus. People donate for the browser but the funds are used for other purposes meaning the browser doesn’t get the attention it should. If you think it’s not a distraction to even distribute funds it is because you have to at least spend time and energy picking between options
- debugnik 2y ago
  > People donate for the browser Then they're doing it wrong, because exactly zero donations to the Mozilla Foundation go to Firefox, that's a Mozilla Corporation project. To support the browser, purchase their side services instead.
  - ranger_danger 2y ago
    Got a source for that?
    - debugnik 2y ago
      Take it from this engineer employed at the Foundation for ten years. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346814 The Foundation website also states it, but they try to weasel word their way around it: Firefox is not listed as one of their programs but as being maintained by the Corporation, which shares its revenue back to the Foundation (not the other way around).
  - tredre3 2y ago
    > Then they're doing it wrong Which was GP's point, people (rightfully imo) assume that donating to Mozilla helps the browser. Mozilla is being misleading and is the one who should be criticized, not the person who's donating to them and didn't read the fineprints regarding where the money is going.

Why? Competition and alternatives are good for everyone.

beanjuiceII 2y ago

they aren't spending their money on competing

PenguinCoder 2y ago
Firefox existing, is competition against a world of Chromium.
- cstrahan 2y ago
  How is Mozilla funding a private Google Photos alternative “competition against a world of Chromium”? Maybe you didn’t follow the thread close enough — the complaint isn’t that funding Firefox is counterproductive, but that shoveling dollars to a non-Firefox product does nothing to help Firefox compete against Chrome/Chromium, which is kinda hard to argue against, no?

vlovich123 2y ago

Focus. People donate for the browser but the funds are used for other purposes meaning the browser doesn’t get the attention it should. If you think it’s not a distraction to even distribute funds it is because you have to at least spend time and energy picking between options

debugnik 2y ago
> People donate for the browser Then they're doing it wrong, because exactly zero donations to the Mozilla Foundation go to Firefox, that's a Mozilla Corporation project. To support the browser, purchase their side services instead.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  Got a source for that?
  - debugnik 2y ago
    Take it from this engineer employed at the Foundation for ten years. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346814 The Foundation website also states it, but they try to weasel word their way around it: Firefox is not listed as one of their programs but as being maintained by the Corporation, which shares its revenue back to the Foundation (not the other way around).
- tredre3 2y ago
  > Then they're doing it wrong Which was GP's point, people (rightfully imo) assume that donating to Mozilla helps the browser. Mozilla is being misleading and is the one who should be criticized, not the person who's donating to them and didn't read the fineprints regarding where the money is going.