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Simplest way to build apps for Windows Phone

59 points by amirnathoo 14y ago

dewiz 14y ago
======= Boo-hoo! This video can’t be played with your current setup. Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install Adobe Flash Player. ======= Well... I might build apps for any phone, cool, but I cannot play your screencast on my android. The codec is not available on Android 2.2.
- projct 14y ago
  <video> tag _only_ supports h264 in android 2.2, it should work fine. their site's incorrectly detecting your browser or your Android vendor screwed up bigtime... or both. Galaxy S for example has some browser quirks[1]. [1] http://www.broken-links.com/2010/07/08/making-html5-video-work-on-android-phones/ http://www.broken-links.com/2010/07/08/making-html5-video-wo...
jister 14y ago
I'd rather click one button instead of typing 3 lines but that's just me
- amirnathoo 14y ago
  That's coming with our UI toolkit :) https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/
eli 14y ago
I know it's not quite the same thing, but PhoneGap does Windows Phone too: http://phonegap.com/about/features http://phonegap.com/about/features
forgotAgain 14y ago
$299 / month? Doesn't seem worth it to me.
programminggeek 14y ago
One thing I love about PhoneGap that I kind of hate about all of these different "compile in the cloud" platforms, is I like have the actual source and being able to compile on my local machine. If your cloud compile infrastructure is down or I don't have a net connection, I can't compile my app and test on device. To me that is actually worse. I'm a developer and I can figure out how to setup an xcode or Android or WP7 app. It's not hard, especially if the app just has a single web view. I realize these features only exist to appease Windows only shops who want to make iOS apps, but don't want to buy Macs, but if you want to build iOS apps, buy a mac. You want to make Windows Phone apps, buy a PC. Trigger.io looks cool and all, but give me local compile and the actual project code. Otherwise, you've made my dev experience worse, not better.
- amirnathoo 14y ago
  That's fair enough: part of our design philosophy is to not require setup for local compiles since our goal is to appeal to devs who value that. That comes with trade-offs as you mention, the requirement to have a network connection to interact with a cloud build service.
RandallBrown 14y ago
Will this let me do Windows Phone development on a Mac? I seem to remember reading about Trigger.io letting you do iPhone development on a PC.
- amirnathoo 14y ago
  Not yet, we'll work on that... though of course you can install a Windows 7 partition on your Mac which is how I did the screencast
jmitcheson 14y ago
amirnathoo: the trigger.io website mentions a cloud build service to compete with the PhoneGap Build API, but I can't seem to find any more details. Could you point me in the right direction please?
- amirnathoo 14y ago
  Absolutely! You interact with our cloud build service via our command line tools - signup at https://trigger.io/forge https://trigger.io/forge to download that Or our UI Toolkit: https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ Devs seem to prefer those methods than uploading code into some kind of web form. If you want information about how our cloud build service works, here's an overview: http://trigger.io/cross-platform-application-development-blog/2012/01/26/how-forge-works-and-why-were-proud-of-it/ http://trigger.io/cross-platform-application-development-blo...
  - jmitcheson 14y ago
    Thank you

59 points by amirnathoo 14y ago

dewiz 14y ago

======= Boo-hoo! This video can’t be played with your current setup. Please switch to a browser that provides native H.264 support or install Adobe Flash Player. ======= Well... I might build apps for any phone, cool, but I cannot play your screencast on my android. The codec is not available on Android 2.2.

projct 14y ago
<video> tag _only_ supports h264 in android 2.2, it should work fine. their site's incorrectly detecting your browser or your Android vendor screwed up bigtime... or both. Galaxy S for example has some browser quirks[1]. [1] http://www.broken-links.com/2010/07/08/making-html5-video-work-on-android-phones/ http://www.broken-links.com/2010/07/08/making-html5-video-wo...

jister 14y ago

I'd rather click one button instead of typing 3 lines but that's just me

amirnathoo 14y ago
That's coming with our UI toolkit :) https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/

eli 14y ago

I know it's not quite the same thing, but PhoneGap does Windows Phone too: http://phonegap.com/about/features http://phonegap.com/about/features

forgotAgain 14y ago

$299 / month? Doesn't seem worth it to me.

programminggeek 14y ago

One thing I love about PhoneGap that I kind of hate about all of these different "compile in the cloud" platforms, is I like have the actual source and being able to compile on my local machine. If your cloud compile infrastructure is down or I don't have a net connection, I can't compile my app and test on device. To me that is actually worse. I'm a developer and I can figure out how to setup an xcode or Android or WP7 app. It's not hard, especially if the app just has a single web view. I realize these features only exist to appease Windows only shops who want to make iOS apps, but don't want to buy Macs, but if you want to build iOS apps, buy a mac. You want to make Windows Phone apps, buy a PC. Trigger.io looks cool and all, but give me local compile and the actual project code. Otherwise, you've made my dev experience worse, not better.

amirnathoo 14y ago
That's fair enough: part of our design philosophy is to not require setup for local compiles since our goal is to appeal to devs who value that. That comes with trade-offs as you mention, the requirement to have a network connection to interact with a cloud build service.

RandallBrown 14y ago

Will this let me do Windows Phone development on a Mac? I seem to remember reading about Trigger.io letting you do iPhone development on a PC.

amirnathoo 14y ago
Not yet, we'll work on that... though of course you can install a Windows 7 partition on your Mac which is how I did the screencast

jmitcheson 14y ago

amirnathoo: the trigger.io website mentions a cloud build service to compete with the PhoneGap Build API, but I can't seem to find any more details. Could you point me in the right direction please?

amirnathoo 14y ago
Absolutely! You interact with our cloud build service via our command line tools - signup at https://trigger.io/forge https://trigger.io/forge to download that Or our UI Toolkit: https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ https://trigger.io/forge/toolkit/ Devs seem to prefer those methods than uploading code into some kind of web form. If you want information about how our cloud build service works, here's an overview: http://trigger.io/cross-platform-application-development-blog/2012/01/26/how-forge-works-and-why-were-proud-of-it/ http://trigger.io/cross-platform-application-development-blo...
- jmitcheson 14y ago
  Thank you